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More proof Evolution is not true

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source Science and the bible part 2 (read for some other great stuff on the page)


Now lets take a look at the bible and Geology.

The majority of scientist in this field clash with what the bible teaches because most of these scientist teach evolution. Geology involves the study of the history of the earths crust, rocks and strata. Strata simply means the different layers that are found within the earths crust.​

If you look in any biology or geology textbooks you will find diagram of a so-called geological Column. The geological column is suppose to represent 12 different geological ages of life forms that have formed over billions of years. The lowest level is suppose to contain the most simplex creatures and the further you move up the column the more complex they become. But let me let you in on a little secret, this geological column does not exist anywhere on this earth. It only exist in their own textbooks and imagination.

There is a major flaw with their geological column. For example if all the earths living creatures were stacked on top of each other that supposedly evolved over a time span of 2 billion years the depth would have to be 130miles. This is a major problem considering the earth crust is only 25 to 30 miles deep. So their hunch just doesn’t stack up.

Another major problem that they have to deal with is the true geological record that we have today. You see the lowest level of fossils that we have today is called the Cambrian level. This is an amazing level because there are great variety of organism found here which indicate that all these life forms existed together at once which exactly what the Bible teaches. The truth of the matter is that every major invertebrate animal group has been found in this layer. The simplex and the complex are found together which goes directly against what the evolutionist teach. They teach only the most simplex should be in this layer.

I believe the bible holds the real answer to this lower level containing so many different kinds of organism. The bible account of the flood in Gen 6:17 and Gen 7:23 is a more accurately account for these species being in this lower level. In order for something to become a fossil it has to be covered quickly before it decays because if it just left there it most likely will be eaten. Since there are so many different organism in one place the flood waters best fit why so many are preserved in one place and we need to keep in mind that these great graveyards can be found all over the world again indicating a world wide flood. The water would quickly bury these creatures give them the ideal condition to become fossils. Also, every mountain that we have on this earth show signs of being under water at one point which gives us more evidence of a world wide flood just as the Word of God states.

I also want to show you some evidence that shows that man and some of these other creatures that supposedly died out millions years before man both coexisted at one time.

First I want to show you an Inca burial stone.

“This stone was engraved by the Incas long before the discovery of dinosaurs in the mid 1800's. Engraved on this stone is a triceratops dinosaur which is accurately portrayed in detail with a human rider mounted on its back. It would appear that the Incas, or their ancestors, had seen living dinosaurs.”

Our next example is a fossil of sandal print and trilobite.

“The oldest fossil footprint yet found was discovered in June 1968 by William J. Meister on an expedition to Antelope Spring, 43 miles west of Delta, Utah, USA. He was accompanied by his wife and two daughters, and by Mr. and Mrs. Francis Shape and their two daughters. The party had already discovered several fossils of trilobites when Meister split open a two-inch-thick slab of rock with his hammer and discovered the print. The rock fell open 'like a book' revealing on one side the footprint of a human with trilobites right in the footprint itself. The other half of the rock slab showed an almost perfect mold of the footprint and fossils. Amazingly the human was wearing a sandal! The sandal that seems to have crushed a living trilobite was 10 1/4 inches long and 3 1/2 inches wide; the heel is indented slightly more than the sole, as a human shoe print would be." According to the "Theory of Evolution" humans and trilobites would not have been around at the same time, but as the photo shows, they were.”

My last example is what is known as the Coffee track.

“In 1934 Mr. A.M. Coffee of Stinnett, Texas, a pumper for the Gulf Oil Company, discovered a trail of nine “human-like footprints” in series on a rock ledge about four miles out of town. He worked one of the tracks loose and took it home. After he showed the artifact to a few friends including his boss, various interested persons took the rest of the tracks from the site. The discovery created an instant controversy among archaeologists, geologists and anthropologists, because the sedimentary rock system of the entire area is geologically assigned Permian (assumed to be 225 million years old). The general consensus was that the print had to be a carving made by Indians, or the like. The difficulties involved in drawing such conclusions were enhanced by the fact that the print was accompanied by eight other prints in the series, along with an adjacent child's print. Further controversy ensued when it was pointed out that the tracks were not “stylized” as other Indian carvings are.”

Now these foot prints have been analyzed by our latest technology and have been deemed authentic foot prints and not carved ones. So, once again we have another example that shows that man existed at the same times as the other animals that supposedly lived 225 million years ago.

Another interesting fact is that we have around 250,000 different species preserved in fossils today. Out of all of these fossils records we would assume that if the evolutionist were correct we would find some half formed creature during the evolution period. However, not 1 single fossil has been found with half formed features. There are so many holes in the evolution theory one wonders why the continue to teach it.

Scientist will never find their missing link because the bible makes it clear that things produce after their own kind as seen in,

Genesis 1:11 Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

This means a tree will produce a tree and monkey will produce a monkey. We have never evolved from something else. We are not now in state of evolving into something better instead we are going through a processes of degeneration. So far this morning and this evening we have only talked about the field of Astronomy, Oceanography, Physics, and Geology. There are many more fields of science we could talk about and what the Bible say about them but we will stop here. Again, I stand amazed at how much scientific foreknowledge in found in the bible. I hope that you will be able to share some of these points I have made with those around you.
 

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Why is so hard for people, to believe The Lords words in The Holy Bible? All of them? You believe when The Lord says

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Yet after 12+ years of brainwashing in school everyone ignores The Lords words on creation because some extremely flawed and half thought up theory of "evolution" created by MAN says otherwise...it's really sad,that people put their faith in science, instead of The Lord. :\ if you would just read The Words in The Bible it explains everything, even things man "discovers" centuries later.
 
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Would it threaten your belief in God to accept evolution? It seems like you think about this a lot.

Evolution is an established fact. Instead of struggling against this, why not learn more about how it works, how the theory developed, how theology has responded to it, etc.? Creationism is the easy and dishonest way out. Grappling with the truth is challenging but rewarding.
 
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I've learned how it works and in another thread I posted videos of a scientist completely destroying what is the failed theory(not fact of evolution, it's NOT established anything except brainwashing. Ther has not been 1 single example of anything evolving into something else that's completely different. Not ONE. And with the world being as old as scientists CLAIM it to be, that impossible.) I believe it's 7 hours worth of video, he goes into how the theory of evolution came to be, why even with its horribly flawed core it came to be "the norm" and propagate throughout society like a bad virus and to this day is considered "fact" and "truth". No want wants to even entertain the notion that it's all a lie, because it's been forced into our heads throughout schooling and like religion and those who don't believe what happens when you challenge the idea of evolution being a lie? You get mocked just like you just did to me, "oh he's ignorant he just doesn't know". Even if that's true, the scientist who made the videos DOES know, that's why he's never lost a debate with any evolutionist, because he speaks the language they do and he asked the questions the laymans wouldn't ask and they have no cover up, no safe response. It's so much more than that though, his videos point out so many things that show evolution is NOT real it's really sad, but not suprising it's still so readily pushed and accepted in today's society. Especially when you see tv shows like Jersey Shore dominating airwaves and some of the trash music that everyone can't enough of.

We did NOT evolve from monkies, period. We were created just as The Lord says in The Bible, in His image.
 
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Why is so hard for people, to believe The Lords words in The Holy Bible? All of them? You believe when The Lord says

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Yet after 12+ years of brainwashing in school everyone ignores The Lords words on creation because some extremely flawed and half thought up theory of "evolution" created by MAN says otherwise...it's really sad,that people put their faith in science, instead of The Lord. :\ if you would just read The Words in The Bible it explains everything, even things man "discovers" centuries later.
Some atheists are arrogant and think they know it all and that science will save them. Remember that Satan has blinded the eyes of the non-believer so what you're saying to them will not be accepted or understood.
(2 Corinthians 4:4-5)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

Hang in there Josh--interesting post. Next time I see my atheist brother, I'll have a few points to make about science when he's telling me how stupid I am for believing in God.
 
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I've learned how it works and in another thread I posted videos of a scientist completely destroying what is the failed theory(not fact of evolution, it's NOT established anything except brainwashing. Ther has not been 1 single example of anything evolving into something else that's completely different. Not ONE. And with the world being as old as scientists CLAIM it to be, that impossible.) I believe it's 7 hours worth of video, he goes into how the theory of evolution came to be, why even with its horribly flawed core it came to be "the norm" and propagate throughout society like a bad virus and to this day is considered "fact" and "truth". No want wants to even entertain the notion that it's all a lie, because it's been forced into our heads throughout schooling and like religion and those who don't believe what happens when you challenge the idea of evolution being a lie? You get mocked just like you just did to me, "oh he's ignorant he just doesn't know". Even if that's true, the scientist who made the videos DOES know, that's why he's never lost a debate with any evolutionist, because he speaks the language they do and he asked the questions the laymans wouldn't ask and they have no cover up, no safe response. It's so much more than that though, his videos point out so many things that show evolution is NOT real it's really sad, but not suprising it's still so readily pushed and accepted in today's society. Especially when you see tv shows like Jersey Shore dominating airwaves and some of the trash music that everyone can't enough of.

We did NOT evolve from monkies, period. We were created just as The Lord says in The Bible, in His image.

Historical contingency and the evolution of a key innovation in an experimental population of Escherichia coli

So... I hate to say it, but you really don't get what you are talking about. First off, science isn't a debating club. The validity of a theory is determined by the data, not how many debates you win or lose. Secondly, science isn't presented in the venue of Youtube videos: if you want science, go the periodical section of your university library and find something like Nature, Science or Developmental Neurobiology.

Thirdly, we all know we didn't evolve from "monkies[sic]", evolutionary theory doesn't state that we did. That you claim it does doesn't help your credibility.

Lastly, it is patently obvious that we are evolving. Even in the context of recorded history, we have evolved. Adult lactase expression, for example.
 
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It's clear none of you are going to listen, you're set on your ways and hold tight to your brain washing, that's fine. All I can do is try and better myself, can't expect anyone else to change. I'll continue to believe in The Lords words on creation, you all continue to believe in mans...
 
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It's clear none of you are going to listen, you're set on your ways and hold tight to your brain washing, that's fine. All I can do is try and better myself, can't expect anyone else to change. I'll continue to believe in The Lords words on creation, you all continue to believe in mans...

Hey...what about me? :p
 
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It's clear none of you are going to listen, you're set on your ways and hold tight to your brain washing, that's fine. All I can do is try and better myself, can't expect anyone else to change. I'll continue to believe in The Lords words on creation, you all continue to believe in mans...
The Church has not dogmatically defined either position, so until she does, please refrain from accusing fellow Church members of 'not believing the Word of God.'
 
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The bible is not meant to be taken 100% literally.
The two totally different and seemingly contradictory creation stories in Genesis are there to prove a point. Not how God created the universe, but that he did. Each story comes from a different source. There is absolutely no reason one cannot accept that modern science is revealing the process in which God created the universe. The bible was not meant to be a science book.
 
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When I was grad student and helped teach Evolution on the first day of class I always wrote on the board:

The Theory of Evolution is about how evolution happened and is happening. The Theory of Evolution is not about if evolution happened, that evolution happened is a fact.

When discussion the Theory of Evolution people always talk about about Natural Selection but the Theory of Evolution also include Sexual Selection. Soooooo, what bred of dog do you own? How do you explain away bulldogs which absolutely did not exist a couple of hundred years ago? :p;)

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The bible is not meant to be taken 100% literally.
The two totally different and seemingly contradictory creation stories in Genesis are there to prove a point. Not how God created the universe, but that he did. Each story comes from a different source. There is absolutely no reason one cannot accept that modern science is revealing the process in which God created the universe. The bible was not meant to be a science book.

There are no contradictions in The Bible. If you feel as though one seems like it is, Google it, and i'm sure you'll find the answer. In terms of your reference to Genesis, again there wasn't any contradiction, it like many other Chapters in The Bible, it was simply the same thing repeated and or shown only in a different way. And yes the stories were written by different people, but the source is the same, and that is The Lord. And how are you so sure as to what The Bible was meant to be? For not a science book it sure does have a lot of science, that "modern" science seems to just "discover" so many hundreds to thousands of years later...interesting. I see The Bible as a book of truth, all of it, not just the parts that seem to go against mans "modern" half baked science theories.
 
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Is The Word of God not in The Bible?
It is, but words mean nothing to humans without interpretation, and what we have in this situation is varying interpretations -- and the Church has yet to dogmatically declare one or the other as correct. Until it does, it is unfair and uncalled for to hint that someone in the Church 'doesn't believe the Word of God' when really, they just interpret it differently, and the Church has not definitively pronounced your interpretation to be true.
 
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How do you explain away bulldogs which absolutely did not exist a couple of hundred years ago? :p;)
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I don't know about the validity of that statement but I will say no one is denying genes and such play a part in biological makeup. And I can also say, a bulldog didn't "evolve" from a completely different specie. It wasn't a whale to a cow for instance like lot of silly scientist claim. And that person who said Evolutionist don't believe we evolved from monkies, I don't think they've taken a walk in any scientific institutions then, or read any evolutionary related science books. For not believing in that funny how they have re-enactments of it in broad, proud displays. ;)
 
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