More insight into WHY PAUL?

[eph3Nine]

The number one fundamental fact that forms the meat of Pauline authority is that Paul received his office of apostleship from the risen Lord Jesus Christ.

(Romans 1:1-5 KJV) Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, {2} (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) {3} Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; {4} And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: {5} By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:​

Verse 5 says, "By whom we have received grace and apostleship..." Why did Paul receive grace and apostleship? For the obedience to the faith among all nations.


We, as Gentiles, are to obey the faith. "The faith" is what we are to believe as a Gentile. If you say you believe in God you need to believe in God a certain way during this dispensation of the grace of God and the way we know it is through Paul.


Simply put, why did Paul receive apostleship and this grace (God’s unmerited favor)? For the obedience to the faith among all nations.
So, why Paul? Why Paul if there is not a different gospel than what the 12 preached or a different kind of office of authority? The reason Paul gives is for the obedience to the faith among all nations.

(Acts 1:8 KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.​

Here we see that the 11 will receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon them. When that happens they are to go out in a particular order:

1. Jerusalem, the city of the great king (Isaiah 60)
2. Judea, the land of the throne
3. Samaria, the northern kingdom
4. The uttermost part of the earth (the Gentile nations)

So we have to ask ourselves the question:



if Paul and Peter preached the same gospel, then why Paul.... because the Gentiles were already concluded under Peter’s commission? But Paul comes along and says he is the one who received grace and apostleship for the obedience to the faith among all nations.


The facts are that when you get to Romans 1 you now have a different gospel with a different apostle. We need to recognize Paul’s authority and the uniqueness of his office and the message of it.

 

[s0journ3r]

The number one fundamental fact that forms the meat of Pauline authority is that Paul received his office of apostleship from the risen Lord Jesus Christ.

(Romans 1:1-5 KJV) Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, {2} (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) {3} Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; {4} And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: {5} By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:​

Verse 5 says, "By whom we have received grace and apostleship..." Why did Paul receive grace and apostleship? For the obedience to the faith among all nations.

We, as Gentiles, are to obey the faith. "The faith" is what we are to believe as a Gentile. If you say you believe in God you need to believe in God a certain way during this dispensation of the grace of God and the way we know it is through Paul.

Again, this is another baseless claim. We're to believe in a different faith merely because we're Gentiles & merely because eph3Nine says so? I'm sorry, but that's not going to suffice. First of all, what faith did Paul preach? That which he once tried to destroy. Right? Well, what faith existed before Paul? That which the apostle's preached. So, why are we to assume that the faith Paul preached was different? We shouldn't. There's no verse in the Bible that says Paul preached a different message/faith/gospel. In fact, quite the opposite is true. The Bible tell us 1.) he preached the faith he once tried to destroy (Gal. 1:23), and 2.) he preached the same message that the other apostle's preached (1 Cor. 15:11).

Simply put, why did Paul receive apostleship and this grace (God’s unmerited favor)? For the obedience to the faith among all nations.
So, why Paul? Why Paul if there is not a different gospel than what the 12 preached or a different kind of office of authority? The reason Paul gives is for the obedience to the faith among all nations.

(Acts 1:8 KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.​

Here we see that the 11 will receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon them. When that happens they are to go out in a particular order:

1. Jerusalem, the city of the great king (Isaiah 60)
2. Judea, the land of the throne
3. Samaria, the northern kingdom
4. The uttermost part of the earth (the Gentile nations)

So we have to ask ourselves the question:

if Paul and Peter preached the same gospel, then why Paul.... because the Gentiles were already concluded under Peter’s commission? But Paul comes along and says he is the one who received grace and apostleship for the obedience to the faith among all nations.

The facts are that when you get to Romans 1 you now have a different gospel with a different apostle. We need to recognize Paul’s authority and the uniqueness of his office and the message of it.

Jesus tells us why He chose Paul.

Acts 9:15 :: he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.
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Mid-Acts Dispensationalists cannot let the Word of God stand as is...because it doesn't prove their theory. They have to read into Paul's call a foreign concept that the Bible doesn't convey in order for their Mid-Acts Dispensational arguments to seem plausible. Doesn't that bother anyone?

eph3Nine keeps claiming that the apostle Paul had "another gospel" for "another people," but this clashes with the Bible that says Paul preached the same faith he once tried to destroy...and that he preached the same message as the other apostles. And it also clashes with the Biblical truth that there's no longer Jew or Gentile in Christ. We're all one in Him. So, the teaching of a "different gospel" to a "different people" is nonsense...since it re-creates the barrier that Christ broke down by insinuating that Gentiles are still a "different people" when Paul himself says they've been grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. No longer different.

Isaiah 56:3 :: Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, "The Lord will surely separate me from his people"; and let not the eunuch say, "Behold, I am a dry tree."
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Yours truly in Christ,
sojourner

 

[stumpjumper]

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[eph3Nine]

Thank you , Stumpjumper. Have a great day!

 

[jeffweeder]

The facts are that when you get to Romans 1 you now have a different gospel with a different apostle.

Paul tells you where he got his Gospel,-It was the one revealed to the prophets, their is no other. The good news is that Jesus has Fulfilled the promises, according to the prophets, by rising from the dead, and obtaining everlasting salvation, through his blood- This is the only way Sin can be permantley put away-This is the only thing we can preach, if people want forgiveness sins, whether your a Jew or a Gentile.

God in these lasts days has spoken to us by his Son.

 

[eph3Nine]

Paul tells you where he got his Gospel

He sure does!!!!

The MYSTERY came from the Lord Jesus Christ by DIRECT REVELATION.

Galatians 1:11,12 "But I certify you , brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, by BY THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST."

Ephesians 3:3, "How that BY REVELATION He made known unto me The MYSTERY."

2 Corinthians 12:1,7 "I will come to visions and REVELATIONS of the Lord...and lest I should be exalted above measure through the ABUNDANCE of REVELATIONS..."

I see NOTHING about Paul getting his information from other apostles, or ANY OTHER MAN, but Jesus Christ Himself!!!!!

The Lord Jesus Christ revealed His heart and His mind to the Apostle Paul when He taught him the Revelation of the MYSTERY. He laid bare His inner-most thoughts concerning this Dispensation and its program.

The last words of Christ are not contained in the first chapter of Acts. Paul wrote down the WORDS OF OUR LORD for the Body of Christ in this AGE of Grace.

 

[eph3Nine]

He sure does!!!!

The MYSTERY came from the Lord Jesus Christ by DIRECT REVELATION.

Galatians 1:11,12 "But I certify you , brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, by BY THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST."

Ephesians 3:3, "How that BY REVELATION He made known unto me The MYSTERY."

2 Corinthians 12:1,7 "I will come to visions and REVELATIONS of the Lord...and lest I should be exalted above measure through the ABUNDANCE of REVELATIONS..."

I see NOTHING about Paul getting his information from other apostles, or ANY OTHER MAN, but Jesus Christ Himself!!!!!

The Lord Jesus Christ revealed His heart and His mind to the Apostle Paul when He taught him the Revelation of the MYSTERY. He laid bare His inner-most thoughts concerning this Dispensation and its program.

The last words of Christ are not contained in the first chapter of Acts. Paul wrote down the WORDS OF OUR LORD for the Body of Christ in this AGE of Grace.

Paul indeed tells us where HIS gospel came from...and he DOESNT say that he learned it from Peter and the boys.