Moral is only objective

[joinfree]

Define the word "morality" as an objective phenomenon. Otherwise it is not objectively existing. And once morality is objective, then the notion of morality is shared by all people, then the Morality of Christ is in every person. And since Atheists do not recognize Moral values, they are maliciously lying:

The presence of two morals means double standards. And this is falsehood and arbitrariness. The presence of two morals does not make one of the morals absolutely necessary to use. And this is hypocrisy.
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[Presbyterian Continuist]

Define the word "morality" as an objective phenomenon. Otherwise it is not objectively existing. And once morality is objective, then the notion of morality is shared by all people, then the Morality of Christ is in every person. And since Atheists do not recognize Moral values, they are maliciously lying:

The presence of two morals means double standards. And this is falsehood and arbitrariness. The presence of two morals does not make one of the morals absolutely necessary to use. And this is hypocrisy.
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In actual fact, Christ's morality is based on 1 Corinthians 13 and the fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5. The whole of God's moral law (which is the only moral law that matters, and the one He keeps to Himself) is summed up in Jesus's new commandment (which overrides all other commandments) to love one another as He has loved us.

 

[joinfree]

In actual fact, Christ's morality is based on 1 Corinthians 13 and the fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5. The whole of God's moral law (which is the only moral law that matters, and the one He keeps to Himself) is summed up in Jesus's new commandment (which overrides all other commandments) to love one another as He has loved us.

Lord of Love loves only those, who exists. Because the existence comes from God of Existence. So, e.g, the atheism, satanism, devils, satans, are just problems, obstacles. But they are not real things.

 

[Strathos]

Your posts are often very unclear.

 

[zephcom]

Define the word "morality" as an objective phenomenon. Otherwise it is not objectively existing. And once morality is objective, then the notion of morality is shared by all people, then the Morality of Christ is in every person. And since Atheists do not recognize Moral values, they are maliciously lying:

The presence of two morals means double standards. And this is falsehood and arbitrariness. The presence of two morals does not make one of the morals absolutely necessary to use. And this is hypocrisy.
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You state that 'Atheists do not recognize Moral values...". Do you have any evidence whatsoever that shows that to be a true statement?

 

[joinfree]

You state that 'Atheists do not recognize Moral values...". Do you have any evidence whatsoever that shows that to be a true statement?

Look the video. They told it in plain text!

 

[joinfree]

Your posts are often very unclear.

Ask the questions. We both have brains.

 

[zephcom]

Look the video. They told it in plain text!

I did watch the video. And just to make sure, I watched it again. There is nothing at all in the video which talks about Atheists or that they do not recognize moral values. The video is about Christians not being able to support their moral values as being divine.

You make a statement of implied fact without any support for that for that statement.

 

[joinfree]

I did watch the video. And just to make sure, I watched it again. There is nothing at all in the video which talks about Atheists .....

Are you hallucinating? In the video the atheists try to debunk the theistic "moral proof". The video is made my atheists.

 

[zephcom]

Are you hallucinating? In the video the atheists try to debunk the theistic "moral proof". The video is made my atheists.

That -one- atheist doesn't accept -your- moral values does not mean -atheists- (plural) do not accept 'moral values' generally.

You make an erroneous assumption that 1. that a single atheist speaks for all atheists, 2. that asking someone to prove their point implies rejection of the point and 3. that there are no other moral values in existence outside of the ones you accept. All of those assumptions are wrong.

 

[joinfree]

That -one- atheist doesn't accept -your- moral values does not mean -atheists- (plural) do not accept 'moral values' generally.

You make an erroneous assumption that 1. that a single atheist speaks for all atheists, 2. that asking someone to prove their point implies rejection of the point and 3. that there are no other moral values in existence outside of the ones you accept. All of those assumptions are wrong.

Man, the atheists put in doubt the IMMORALITY of KILLING Babies! Babies! Look again the video! They said about babies in plain text! Babies! Cute blue-eye babies! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M7T-gQ0eS...AV_bTfs/s1600/cute-baby-girl-hd-wallpaper.jpg

 

[zephcom]

Man, the atheists put in doubt the IMMORALITY of KILLING Babies! Babies! Look again the video! They said about babies in plain text! Babies! Cute blue-eye babies! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M7T-gQ0eS...AV_bTfs/s1600/cute-baby-girl-hd-wallpaper.jpg

It was an example of what he was asking theists to do. It was NOT an actual statement of personal belief.

And, just to be clear, it was ONE atheist, not atheists in general.

Atheists are NOT going to be running around actually killing babies whether they have blue eyes or not.

 

[joinfree]

It was an example of what he was asking theists to do. It was NOT an actual statement of personal belief.

And, just to be clear, it was ONE atheist, not atheists in general.

Atheists are NOT going to be running around actually killing babies whether they have blue eyes or not.

They have put the Babies in danger! Nobody can even think, to murder a baby!

 

[zephcom]

They have put the Babies in danger! Nobody can even think, to murder a baby!

Babies are no more in danger after that video than they were before it. Becoming hysterical over it doesn't change that reality.

It may be great fun to try and work others up enough to make them want to go out and harm atheists but the reality is that atheists are NOT going to start a campaign to kill babies.

 

[joinfree]

The Unbelievers have Belief??? These idiots have put the Babies in danger! Nobody can even think, to murder a baby!

 

[zephcom]

The Unbelievers have Belief??? These idiots have put the Babies in danger! Nobody can even think, to murder a baby!

Idiots???? Perhaps you are getting yourself overwrought over something that is not even going to happen.

BTW, a lot of people have not only thought about murdering a baby, they appear to have actually done it. Even God appears to have ordered the killing of babies (1 Samuel 15).

 

[Strathos]

Ask the questions. We both have brains.

Is English your first language?

 

[joinfree]

Idiots???? Perhaps you are getting yourself overwrought over something that is not even going to happen.

BTW, a lot of people have not only thought about murdering a baby, they appear to have actually done it. Even God appears to have ordered the killing of babies (1 Samuel 15).

The God is Holy. If not, then you have disproven the Holy Church, why then you haven't won the Nobel Prize?
The video proves, that in sick twisted mouth of atheists the moral values do not exist. If I am wrong, then the moral exists also in the mind of atheists, so latter are liars (the satan is inventor of lies). A thing, who doubts the moral, is the immoral liar.

 

[zephcom]

The God is Holy. If not, then you have disproven the Holy Church, why then you haven't won the Nobel Prize?
The video proves, that in sick twisted mouth of atheists the moral values do not exist. If I am wrong, then the moral exists also in the mind of atheists, so latter are liars (the satan is inventor of lies). A thing, who doubts the moral, is the immoral liar.

One more time...ONE atheist and not atheists in general said that. The Bible's Old Testament records God giving orders to kill babies.

Your rant against atheists goes nowhere with me. I am capable of seeing through your attempt to paint all atheists based on a video created by one person. And even that person did not suggest anything which had not already been ordered by God.

 

[joinfree]

One more time...ONE atheist and not atheists in general said that. The Bible's Old Testament records God giving orders to kill babies.

Your rant against atheists goes nowhere with me. I am capable of seeing through your attempt to paint all atheists based on a video created by one person. And even that person did not suggest anything which had not already been ordered by God.

satan: "God has killed Babies by the Great Flood, and the rape is not mentioned in ten commandments."
You are trying to prove, that murdering babies and rape are not immoral. It is the immoral lie.