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Please tell me how you can make the determination if a passage is figurative or literal.
If I give you a random passage, would you be able to tell me how you reach the conclusion?
Please tell me how you can make the determination if a passage is figurative or literal.
If I give you a random passage, would you be able to tell me how you reach the conclusion?
Actually, ... no.
It's more a grasping for significance in the universe. Many people have difficulty with the reality of being a very small element of the universe ... which is, BTW, in accord with the Bible's perspective ...
"He knows our frame. He remembers that we are dust.". Psalm 103:21
The founder of the modern day flat Earth movement is Eric Dubay, who, decidedly, is not a believer in the Bible.
Hard to say That is part of the tale that makes no sense.Well, that's a start. What was Jesus being tempted with?
The vast majority of christians are on board with belief in a globe earth.I never said that all flat Earthers are Christians, but a high number of them are and cite the Bible as part of their evidence. The only difference between a Flat Earther and a creationist is a matter of degree.
Yet kingdoms are geographically found all around the world.
I am sorry if geometry is a difficult topic for you.
A vision of the whole Earth as described in the Bible still applies only to a flat Earth. Or perhaps I could be wrong.
Flat Earth beliefs used to be the rule and not the exception.
But even in the last millennium there were Christians that believed that before him.
You should have checked out the link I provided.
You cant just pick a passage like magic. Studying the bible takes prayer and thought and knowledge of the time it was written. It takes a strong faith in God and an understanding of scripture.
God bless you
Well, not always. But let's say for the last 2,000 years or so they have been rather fringey.The vast majority of christians are on board with belief in a globe earth.
Flat Earthers have always been a fringe movement.
Polite, as always.
You are. There's nothing in the passage to suggest that ordinary human sight from a mountain could see "all the kingdoms of the Earth." Quite the contrary, in fact: if you could just see them, they wouldn't need to be shown.
Not since about 500 BC.
There was Lactantius. Anyone else that you can give an actual quote for?
Actually Wikipedia is quite reliable, unless you use it for gossip items and the like. There have been studies on it and though people complain about the editing that anyone can do it turns out the more an article is edited the more reliable it is. Do you need links?I was already quite familiar with it. It's not the most reliable source.
The point of climbing an object is to extend one's range of view.
In Greece, yes, but even Homer was a Flat Earth believer, and he was 2nd century BCE.
How about Saint Augustine:
Actually Wikipedia is quite reliable
Do you need links?
There are other reasons.
More like 8th, in fact.
Excellent example. He's not arguing against a spherical earth, he's arguing against inhabited antipodes, in response to a debate going on at the time.
And he's absolutely correct when he says that a spherical earth does not necessarily imply either (a) land in the Southern Hemisphere or (b) people there.
As a matter of empirical fact, (a) and (b) are true, but they don't follow from the shape of the earth.
That turns out not to be the case.
I'm extremely familiar with the studies on Wikipedia, thanks very much.
Hard to say That is part of the tale that makes no sense.
well ... the moon don't have it's own light ... it reflects the light from the sun ...
If you read up more about him you will find that it is because he believed that the Earth was flat.
Probably not reasonable ones.
Well anytime you want to model that and prove the moon is lit by the sun. Let me know i would like to see your model in person.
Oh and also do not show any light from the sun, lighting the moon, the moon should just shine in the room as if it is a light source itself.
The quote really does not make sense otherwise
Maybe you should read it again. What he is saying is that while there may be another side of the earth, it is not necessarily peopled and may be covered in water. He clearly finds the idea of a sea voyage that long implausible
if you think you can understand his thinking after reading a few wiki posts, well, maybe you should realise that superficial knowledge leads to faulty opinions.
Actually no, and this shows that you are looking at that story rather shallowly. Unless you think that it disproves the divinity of Christ.It’s pretty obvious. And it isn’t part of the tale, it’s the whole point.
Maybe you should read it again. What he is saying is that while there may be another side of the earth, it is not necessarily peopled and may be covered in water. He clearly finds the idea of a sea voyage that long implausible, and is ambiguous about the shape of the world, having been exposed to some different ideas about it. Augustine was pretty open-minded, if you think you can understand his thinking after reading a few wiki posts, well, maybe you should realise that superficial knowledge leads to faulty opinions.
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