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<blockquote data-quote="Tolkien R.R.J" data-source="post: 74566031" data-attributes="member: 411644"><p><strong>Agrarian Society</strong></p><p></p><p>“<em>a feudal society was also essentially a country, rural society”</em></p><p><em>-Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco</em></p><p></p><p>“<em>Urban populations without any real religion or culture, like much of the U.S today, cling to government as the source of identity and the meaning of their exsitance”</em></p><p><em><em>-Clyde Wilson Nullification Reclaiming the Consent of the Governed</em></em></p><p></p><p>The medieval world was also an agrarian society witch saw a drastic increase in farm and food production. With the fall of Rome cities started to empty as people moved to the country. Big cities being unnatural need large scale infrastructure to survive and need large amounts of goods moved from the country into the city to survive witch needs massive government.</p><p></p><p>“<em>Then we meet the feudal system, and the castle was born.”</em></p><p><em>-Leon Gautier Chivalry the Everyday Life of the medieval Knight Tumblar House 2015</em></p><p></p><p>The medieval society centered around the castle as the center of culture, protection, civilization, code of honor, court, laws, trade etc in a rural setting surrounded by small farms in no need of cities or urban areas. The agrarian nature went hand in hand with the form of monarchies and the church. Oxford scholar Christopher Tyermann in his book Gods war wrote the “Religious and political structures rested on settled agrarian economics and populations.” Regine Pernoud in her book Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths wrote “the authority was able to reside elsewhere than in a city.” Rural monasteries were the center of learning. Monks worked the land and were self sufficient [while making beer and wine] while maintain a place of learning and prayer. In ancient Rome farming was thought the work of slaves unlike the christian west. Not until the 16th century during the Renaissance does education moved to urban areas and culture moves towards cities and the origins of the modern state appear. To see the impact of centralization, democracy, urbanization and industrialization on the southern united states decentralized christian agrarian society and how hostile democracy is towards agrarianism, liberty, decentralization and Christianity in the united states context, see this link.</p><p></p><p><em><a href="http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-wish-i-was-in-the-land-of-cotton-southern-agrarian-vs-northern-industrialization.565654/" target="_blank">I Wish I Was In The land Of Cotton- Southern Agrarian vs Northern Industrialization</a></em></p><p></p><p><em>also see</em></p><p></p><p><em>THE MENACE OF THE HERD or Procrustes at Large <em>THE BRUCE PUBLISHING COMPANY MILWAUKEE 1943 </em><a href="https://mises.org/profile/erik-von-kuehnelt-leddihn" target="_blank">Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn</a></em></p><p><strong><em><a href="https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Menace%20of%20the%20Herd,%20or%20Procrustes%20at%20Large_5.pdf" target="_blank">https://cdn.mises.org/The Menace of the Herd, or Procrustes at Large_5.pdf</a></em></strong></p><p></p><p><em>“<em>Authentic country life with its rugged spirit of Independence...its traditions, its distrust of modernity, and its self sufficiency, has compete disappeared, and with it, the most robust opposition to all state centralization.”</em></em></p><p><em>-Christophe Buffin de Chosal the end of Democracy Tomblar House 2017</em></p><p></p><p><em>“<em>The age of the rule of the plains and the cities, which put an end to the rule of the mountains and castles, was indeed the beginning of the decline of Europe. The association of Berlin with Moscow, of nationalism with socialism, was, even in a geographical sense, a league of monotony against diversity.”</em></em></p><p><em>-Erik von Kuehnelt- Leddihn The Menace of the Herd or Procrustes at Large Bruce Publishing Company Milwaukee 1943</em></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>The Winner Writes the History</strong></p><p></p><p><em>“<em>It is so easy, in fact, to manipulate history... for a public that is not knowledgeable about it. We have nearly daily evidence of this on television”</em></em></p><p><em>-Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco</em></p><p></p><p><em>“<em>Official” history is always written by its victors I.e from the perspective of the proponents of democracy.”</em></em></p><p><em>-Hans- Hermann Hoppe</em> <em><em>Democracy the God that Failed The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy and Natural Order Routledge 2001</em></em></p><p></p><p>Because the winner wrote the history we are fed that the western catholic system of monarchy was not the most decentralized, libertarian, self governing time period. But was instead ruled by tyrant kings who had complete control of the populace. Yet it was the return to centralization under roman law that led to king tyrants during the Renaissance.</p><p></p><p>“<em>Centralizing power in the extreme, that of the Roman empire.The revival of Roman law brought about legal standardization in the interest of centralized nation states”</em></p><p><em>-Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco</em></p><p></p><p><em>“<em>Everywhere men are leaving behind the liberty of the Middle Ages, not to enter into a modern brand of liberty but to return to the ancient despotism; for centralization is nothing else than an up-to-date version of the administration seen in the Roman Empire.”</em></em></p><p><em>-<em>James Madison quot</em>ed in <em>Donald Livingston</em></em> <em><em>The Southern Critique of Centralizatio</em>n</em></p><p></p><p>“<em>The revival of Roman law brought about legal standardization in the interest of centralized nation states”</em></p><p><em>-Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco</em></p><p></p><p>The middle ages are the time period of actual self government and liberty, the “evil” time when centralized governments did not rule and thus they are punished in the winners version of history. To dare set up an extended time period that allowed mankind to live under anything but a centralized dictatorship such as ancient Rome or our modern times, receives wrath from statist today and must be made to vanish from people mind and only be remembered as the worst of sins. As it was the middle ages that</p><p></p><p>“<em>The idea of authority faded away, the notion of centralization was wiped out. The power declined into the hands of numerous petty sovereigns”</em></p><p><em>-Leon Gautier Chivalry the Everyday Life of the medieval Knight Tumblar House 2015</em></p><p></p><p>Instead of acts of defense against Muslims aggressors for the purpose of saving their own lives and culture and persecuted Christians in lands taken by Islam, the crusades were violent unjust acts of aggression against peaceful Muslims and early colonialism led by brutal Lords and Kings and catholic bishops. The Jewish ghetto's were not area given Jews to fully observe the Torah and self govern themselves but instead examples of bigotry discrimination intolerance and segregation. The Inquisitions were not done to prevent wrongful accusations and save lives but were a tyrannical force of a mad church sent to burn innocent people at the stake. And on and on. Overall the medieval monarchist time period was the “dark ages” violent, backwards, tyrannical, and one would not wish to repete those time periods so be glad our savior democracy is here. Democracy has not been the most tyrannical time period, nor caused the most wars and death, nor moral decay, and the destruction of family unit and culture. No it has enlightened us, given us peace, progress, liberty, better health , longer lives, advancements and economic gains. The single greatest thing to happen to mankind. Democracy. Besides, if we did not bash other cultures that differ from us who cant defend themselves it would deprive us moderns of the aristocratic pleasure of despising earlier medievalist<em>.</em></p><p></p><p><em>"The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history"</em></p><p><em>-Milan Hubl, Czek communist</em></p><p></p><p>“<em>If you can cut the people off from their history, then they can be easily persuaded.”</em></p><p><em>-Karl Marx</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tolkien R.R.J, post: 74566031, member: 411644"] [B]Agrarian Society[/B] “[I]a feudal society was also essentially a country, rural society” -Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco[/I] “[I]Urban populations without any real religion or culture, like much of the U.S today, cling to government as the source of identity and the meaning of their exsitance” [I]-Clyde Wilson Nullification Reclaiming the Consent of the Governed[/I][/I] The medieval world was also an agrarian society witch saw a drastic increase in farm and food production. With the fall of Rome cities started to empty as people moved to the country. Big cities being unnatural need large scale infrastructure to survive and need large amounts of goods moved from the country into the city to survive witch needs massive government. “[I]Then we meet the feudal system, and the castle was born.” -Leon Gautier Chivalry the Everyday Life of the medieval Knight Tumblar House 2015[/I] The medieval society centered around the castle as the center of culture, protection, civilization, code of honor, court, laws, trade etc in a rural setting surrounded by small farms in no need of cities or urban areas. The agrarian nature went hand in hand with the form of monarchies and the church. Oxford scholar Christopher Tyermann in his book Gods war wrote the “Religious and political structures rested on settled agrarian economics and populations.” Regine Pernoud in her book Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths wrote “the authority was able to reside elsewhere than in a city.” Rural monasteries were the center of learning. Monks worked the land and were self sufficient [while making beer and wine] while maintain a place of learning and prayer. In ancient Rome farming was thought the work of slaves unlike the christian west. Not until the 16th century during the Renaissance does education moved to urban areas and culture moves towards cities and the origins of the modern state appear. To see the impact of centralization, democracy, urbanization and industrialization on the southern united states decentralized christian agrarian society and how hostile democracy is towards agrarianism, liberty, decentralization and Christianity in the united states context, see this link. [I][URL='http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-wish-i-was-in-the-land-of-cotton-southern-agrarian-vs-northern-industrialization.565654/']I Wish I Was In The land Of Cotton- Southern Agrarian vs Northern Industrialization[/URL][/I] [I]also see[/I] [I]THE MENACE OF THE HERD or Procrustes at Large [I]THE BRUCE PUBLISHING COMPANY MILWAUKEE 1943 [/I][URL='https://mises.org/profile/erik-von-kuehnelt-leddihn']Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn[/URL][/I] [B][I][URL='https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Menace%20of%20the%20Herd,%20or%20Procrustes%20at%20Large_5.pdf']https://cdn.mises.org/The Menace of the Herd, or Procrustes at Large_5.pdf[/URL][/I][/B] [I]“[I]Authentic country life with its rugged spirit of Independence...its traditions, its distrust of modernity, and its self sufficiency, has compete disappeared, and with it, the most robust opposition to all state centralization.”[/I] -Christophe Buffin de Chosal the end of Democracy Tomblar House 2017[/I] [I]“[I]The age of the rule of the plains and the cities, which put an end to the rule of the mountains and castles, was indeed the beginning of the decline of Europe. The association of Berlin with Moscow, of nationalism with socialism, was, even in a geographical sense, a league of monotony against diversity.”[/I] -Erik von Kuehnelt- Leddihn The Menace of the Herd or Procrustes at Large Bruce Publishing Company Milwaukee 1943[/I] [B]The Winner Writes the History[/B] [I]“[I]It is so easy, in fact, to manipulate history... for a public that is not knowledgeable about it. We have nearly daily evidence of this on television”[/I] -Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco[/I] [I]“[I]Official” history is always written by its victors I.e from the perspective of the proponents of democracy.”[/I] -Hans- Hermann Hoppe[/I] [I][I]Democracy the God that Failed The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy and Natural Order Routledge 2001[/I][/I] Because the winner wrote the history we are fed that the western catholic system of monarchy was not the most decentralized, libertarian, self governing time period. But was instead ruled by tyrant kings who had complete control of the populace. Yet it was the return to centralization under roman law that led to king tyrants during the Renaissance. “[I]Centralizing power in the extreme, that of the Roman empire.The revival of Roman law brought about legal standardization in the interest of centralized nation states” -Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco[/I] [I]“[I]Everywhere men are leaving behind the liberty of the Middle Ages, not to enter into a modern brand of liberty but to return to the ancient despotism; for centralization is nothing else than an up-to-date version of the administration seen in the Roman Empire.”[/I] -[I]James Madison quot[/I]ed in [I]Donald Livingston[/I][/I] [I][I]The Southern Critique of Centralizatio[/I]n[/I] “[I]The revival of Roman law brought about legal standardization in the interest of centralized nation states” -Regine Pernoud Those Terrible Middle Ages Debunking the Myths Ignatius press San Francisco[/I] The middle ages are the time period of actual self government and liberty, the “evil” time when centralized governments did not rule and thus they are punished in the winners version of history. To dare set up an extended time period that allowed mankind to live under anything but a centralized dictatorship such as ancient Rome or our modern times, receives wrath from statist today and must be made to vanish from people mind and only be remembered as the worst of sins. As it was the middle ages that “[I]The idea of authority faded away, the notion of centralization was wiped out. The power declined into the hands of numerous petty sovereigns” -Leon Gautier Chivalry the Everyday Life of the medieval Knight Tumblar House 2015[/I] Instead of acts of defense against Muslims aggressors for the purpose of saving their own lives and culture and persecuted Christians in lands taken by Islam, the crusades were violent unjust acts of aggression against peaceful Muslims and early colonialism led by brutal Lords and Kings and catholic bishops. The Jewish ghetto's were not area given Jews to fully observe the Torah and self govern themselves but instead examples of bigotry discrimination intolerance and segregation. The Inquisitions were not done to prevent wrongful accusations and save lives but were a tyrannical force of a mad church sent to burn innocent people at the stake. And on and on. Overall the medieval monarchist time period was the “dark ages” violent, backwards, tyrannical, and one would not wish to repete those time periods so be glad our savior democracy is here. Democracy has not been the most tyrannical time period, nor caused the most wars and death, nor moral decay, and the destruction of family unit and culture. No it has enlightened us, given us peace, progress, liberty, better health , longer lives, advancements and economic gains. The single greatest thing to happen to mankind. Democracy. Besides, if we did not bash other cultures that differ from us who cant defend themselves it would deprive us moderns of the aristocratic pleasure of despising earlier medievalist[I].[/I] [I]"The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history" -Milan Hubl, Czek communist[/I] “[I]If you can cut the people off from their history, then they can be easily persuaded.” -Karl Marx[/I] [/QUOTE]
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