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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?
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<blockquote data-quote="RDKirk" data-source="post: 76379199" data-attributes="member: 326155"><p>We've already established in this thread that a couple of different definitions are being bandied about.</p><p></p><p>There are also terms such as "structural" and "systematic" to be considered.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes new terms are invented, or definitions changed, just to create a meaning, such as the recent re-definition of "racism" to include "power" for the specific reason of preventing the word from being applied to a minority group or individual.</p><p></p><p>So we can use "system racism" as a term based wholly on gross statistics without having to pinpoint where the problem is actually occurring. All the term means, practically speaking, is "there are a lot of individual racists occupying niches where they can affect the lives of individual minority members."</p><p></p><p>What correction to that can be made that might not be worse than the problem? And, yes, a Procrustean solution<strong> is</strong> worse than the problem.</p><p></p><p>One factor I've not been able to get information about with regard to blacks unable to get home loans (and I'll note anecdotally that I've never run into that problem) is whether the statistics are corrected for property location and house condition. Is the individual being redlined or is the property redlined? I'm not convinced that a bank should be required to invest--because that's what a home loan is--in a property that is declining in value, regardless of the creditworthiness of the applicant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDKirk, post: 76379199, member: 326155"] We've already established in this thread that a couple of different definitions are being bandied about. There are also terms such as "structural" and "systematic" to be considered. Sometimes new terms are invented, or definitions changed, just to create a meaning, such as the recent re-definition of "racism" to include "power" for the specific reason of preventing the word from being applied to a minority group or individual. So we can use "system racism" as a term based wholly on gross statistics without having to pinpoint where the problem is actually occurring. All the term means, practically speaking, is "there are a lot of individual racists occupying niches where they can affect the lives of individual minority members." What correction to that can be made that might not be worse than the problem? And, yes, a Procrustean solution[B] is[/B] worse than the problem. One factor I've not been able to get information about with regard to blacks unable to get home loans (and I'll note anecdotally that I've never run into that problem) is whether the statistics are corrected for property location and house condition. Is the individual being redlined or is the property redlined? I'm not convinced that a bank should be required to invest--because that's what a home loan is--in a property that is declining in value, regardless of the creditworthiness of the applicant. [/QUOTE]
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