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Except youI think you have missed the topic of this thread. The topic of this thread is not "does racism still exist?" The topic is "Does systemic racism exist?"
If the topic was does racism exist it would be a very short thread. Cause all of us would most likely say yes, racism exists.
So no one here is trying to convince you or anyone that racism does not exist.
Then admit it does exist. I have seen you deny it more than admit it.Either quote me saying racism does not exist or take it back.
no one is calling you a racist becasue you are white...sorry to burst you victiumhood bubble.Brave....so brave. Let's hear it for @SilverBear
who here is doing that?Oh ok....what about a long history of disparaging and attacking white people??
Could we say those people are racist?
And the black students considered for admission to Harvard via affirmative action are those who don't meet the minimum criteria of grades and standardized testing but show great potential. You asked just how many of "them" would get into Harvard without affirmative action and you got the answer.That's a reasonable question one would need to ask in response to your statement.
No...it said only 25 were below the minimum standards. It didn't say "we only let these 25 in because of affirmative action and no one else ever benefits from affirmative action".
See the wide difference between what was said and what you claimed?
how is responding to an on-line anonymous survey being open?It's rather rare to see hiring managers openly admitting to racism.
They were asked to stop giving priority to white male applicant's not to give priority to anyone else.This was a survey from actual managers where they actually admitted to doing it and what they were asked to do by their business.
It's not an article simply looking at statistics without any clarification.
Then admit it does exist. I have seen you deny it more than admit it.
If you don't know if it exists or not you don't have any place to comment on racism.So you can't quote me saying racism doesn't exist. Didn't think so. When you take it back and admit I didn't say that then I will respond with a direct answer as to whether or not I believe racism exists.
I am being called racist....by someone who stated that maybe I should be ashamed of being white.no one is calling you a racist becasue you are white...sorry to burst you victiumhood bubble.
who here is doing that?
And the black students considered for admission to Harvard via affirmative action are those who don't meet the minimum criteria of grades and standardized testing but show great potential. You asked just how many of "them" would get into Harvard without affirmative action and you got the answer.
how is responding to an on-line anonymous survey being open?
“Affirmative-action is ‘racism against white people’.” (General rhetorical statement not quoting anybody)Then admit it does exist. I have seen you deny it more than admit it.
Or how little you care about it
Really??? Personal attacks; that's the best you've got? You lose. (SMH)I know you only believe the white mans word
As we near 2200 posts on this thread, (well done everyone!), I’m going to boil it down to a crispy-sludge.
Some people have come and asked if we are going to do anything with all of the horse-hockey from all these equines running around, rhetorically-speaking.
And some other people, have said, “what horses?”
That’s far as we’ve gotten, in twelve or so paths.
So, keep “fighting-that-good-fight”, we’ll figure it out one way or another, if we just keep on talking nice to one other.
One side has been talking-nice for longer though.
Guess which one?
That’s right, “our side”!
And that should do it.
Isn’t it so nice when we can agree!?We're the moral ones!
-every group in history, ever, in confrontation with a group that disagrees with their morals.
but not because you are white.I am being called racist....
Falseby someone who stated that maybe I should be ashamed of being white.
Yeah, you are.I'm not claiming victimhood.
There are going to be some who bombed their interview but not many.There's several numbers that you would need to know to get the answer...
1. How many students reached the highest possible admissions score and were denied?
Why? Do you think black applicant's to Harvard can't reach the highest possible score?2. How many students out of those black students reached the highest possible admissions score?
Why would Harvard replace student they have aleady judged worthy of attending harvard?3. If we removed affirmative action, how many of those black students would be replaced by non-black students who were denied?
So you can't quote me saying racism doesn't exist. I didn't think so. You are totally gaslighting.If you don't know if it exists or not you don't have any place to comment on racism.
If I was going to personally attack you I would call you a sorry uncle tom. But I wouldn't do that.Really??? Personal attacks; that's the best you've got? You lose. (SMH)
So you agree that systemic racism is real?So you can't quote me saying racism doesn't exist. I didn't think so. You are totally gaslighting.
And gaslighting means you lost the claim.
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