The discussion was about, i believe, a small corps of hard shell fundamentalists. No need to get sarcastic. nobody thinks all christians do that, there is no claim on anyones part of being perfect. I hope...!
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Actually, It believe it would only have to be 4 billion years long, give or take a billion.
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Yep that's a good example of all Christians. We all beat our kids for not believing. I'm sure every single evolutionist and or Athiest is a perfect human.
The discussion was about, i believe, a small corps of hard shell fundamentalists. No need to get sarcastic. nobody thinks all christians do that, there is no claim on anyones part of being perfect. I hope...!
it just REALLY irritates me that some people out there get to vote AND they get to tell kids these lies too...
Have a little sympathy too tho. They were doubtless raised that way, back when their innocent child minds didnt know any better. They internalized it, and now they are passing it on to the next generation......its sad for the adults, sad for the kids. They think they are doing the right thing.
even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old, and all of humanity came from two and only two people, and they didnt even have last names.
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y'know whats worse? I knew a kid who'd get punished and reprimanded by his family for not believing the piles and loads their fundamnetalist parents tried to inundate and program him with; he basically got disowned by his father for not buying into the myth of creationism.
THAT irks me.....
That's because they believe David Copperfield actually makes things disappear!
I'm sure this happens all too often.even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old, and all of humanity came from two and only two people, and they didnt even have last names.
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y'know whats worse? I knew a kid who'd get punished and reprimanded by his family for not believing the piles and loads their fundamnetalist parents tried to inundate and program him with; he basically got disowned by his father for not buying into the myth of creationism.
THAT irks me.....
no honkytonkman, theres no such thing as de-evolution. Its just evolution. Some could sayumans de-evolved once we built the nuke, but thats a different discussion.
yes; creationism IS irrational and it IS unreasonable by all accounts and standards of rationality and reasonability.
Creationism is disrespectful to knowledge itself. its disrespectful to a human's intellegence.
It is unreasonable to ever spread this idea that crationism exists.
Actually it was originally a discussion about the finding of the missing link by a Norwegien Scientist.
It De-evolved into a Christian bashing thread by inferring that we are stupid and unreasonable.
Actually it was originally a discussion about the finding of the missing link by a Norwegien Scientist.
It De-evolved into a Christian bashing thread by inferring that we are stupid and unreasonable.
I would no more hunt for a harvard degree there, or anywhere else, than I would hunt for used toilet tissue on the bottom of a garbage can, thanks anyway.MY fables?! lol lol
ID is real? but, evolution is not?
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anyone else hearing this? Oh man....I just think I popped a blood vessal....
Keep hunting for that harvard degree at the bottom of the cheerio box...
yes; creationism IS irrational and it IS unreasonable by all accounts and standards of rationality and reasonability.
I disagree,it might shock you to know this but people like copernicus,galileo,kepler,newton and others believed in the account of genesis.It didnt seem to inhibit their brillance.Creationism is disrespectful to knowledge itself. its disrespectful to a human's intellegence.
You are a fanatical Evo.Free speech that contradicts your brainwashing must be stamped out.Are you sure your comment was reasonable?It is unreasonable to ever spread this idea that crationism exists.
End Fundamentalism!
NO ID IN SCHOOLS!
TEACH SCIENCE ONLY!
Well the biggest difference i can see is that you dont believe that God made life according to its kind starting with vegetation in Genesis 1:11,and animals according to their kind in verse 20 to verse 25.
I am attempting to fathom your resistence to this particular idea.
Whats irrational about it?
I disagree,it might shock you to know this but people like copernicus,galileo,kepler,newton and others believed in the account of genesis.It didnt seem to inhibit their brillance.
Are you sure that comment of yours is worthy of being regarded as "rational".
You are a fanatical Evo.Free speech that contradicts your brainwashing must be stamped out.Are you sure your comment was reasonable?
Well the biggest difference i can see is that you dont believe that God made life according to its kind starting with vegetation in Genesis 1:11,and animals according to their kind in verse 20 to verse 25.
I am attempting to fathom your resistence to this particular idea.
Whats irrational about it?
I disagree,it might shock you to know this but people like copernicus,galileo,kepler,newton and others believed in the account of genesis.It didnt seem to inhibit their brillance.
Are you sure that comment of yours is worthy of being regarded as "rational".
You are a fanatical Evo.Free speech that contradicts your brainwashing must be stamped out.Are you sure your comment was reasonable?
I have a bible right here,and can translate the hebrew words if need be.You must read Genesis in Hebrew and then understand the author's culture before you can conclude that you know what it says beyond a shadow of a doubt.
You mean you told me to find out the hebrew words and what they mean,yet they mean something else to you???And many who have shed your views of genesis and read it very differently.
It does, if you found out the meaning of the hebrew words.As for the order of creation of life, that fits, doesn't it?
I agree.The timing 6*24 hours is obviously not to be read literally. Of course the Hebrew words used don't necessarily mean 24 hours...
Actually youve gone off on a tangent here.We ll just stick to the genesis account for now.Im curious as to your claim that you have studied the account and your take on the order of creation..how does it contradict itself?If you know the actual hebrew words,it wouldnt,but im open to what you say here..That is hopelessly irrelevant as they lived BEFORE the theory of evolution came to be. So if they believed in your interpretation of genesis account who can blame them? No alternative was around. Should we bash Newton because he did not take into account relativity?
I have a bible right here,and can translate the hebrew words if need be.
You mean you told me to find out the hebrew words and what they mean,yet they mean something else to you???
It does, if you found out the meaning of the hebrew words.
I agree.
Actually youve gone off on a tangent here.We ll just stick to the genesis account for now.Im curious as to your claim that you have studied the account and your take on the order of creation..how does it contradict itself?If you know the actual hebrew words,it wouldnt,but im open to what you say here..
Preaching to the converted im not a YEC,i find their attempts to explain the size of the universe being super massive with a 24 hr day incompatible.I merely wanted to point out that it is not necessarily about 6*24 hours. And that the time span may have been anything at all above that.
Evolution is true only to an extent.Common ancestry is true only to an extent.Theres genetic barriers inbetween kinds that evos cant explain away.I wanted to point out that it is a very rough text, and as God is outside time as we know it we cannot know that evolution is not the process by which He created us and every living thing.
I have the relevant material.The JWs put out a lot of literature to supplement the bible.The genesis account makes sense once actual hebrew is interpreted and the perspective of moses being an observer from the earth is taken into account.I myself have not studied it I am afraid.
Man was formed from Gods own hands.The animals were made according to their kinds .Anyone who tries to say otherwise is lying.basically.Thats my take on it,and biology tends to support what genesis says about kinds only being able to reproduce after themselves with variation of course.But I have discussed the topic with people who have, and who do believe in both the bible being God's word and in evolution.
Understood.My reference was to the word "day" which may not necesarily mean 24 hours. Only a certain period of time, anything at all, as I have understood it. So my argument was against young earth creationism, chiefly.
Jesus tells the truth,he believed in the account of genesis,i think christians who believe that we evolved from monkey like animals are also doing great damage."Creationism" is largely an American construct, and I would be sad to see it spread as it accomplishes little if not pushing people away from Christ and His mercy.
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