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whales are very heavy, so are elephants and hippos, but they don'T sink like lead when you drop them in the water. This hypothesis raises alot of problemsDrotar said:On top of that, what with the flood and all, the dinosaur carcass was probably quite heavy, and got buried by MASS amounts of earth.
Drotar said:The Bible doesn't LIST OFF everything God did. I'm not NOT a Biblical literalist if I think the hand of God oversaw something that wasn't specifically mentioned.
BTW, I'm Calvinist- I believe that God works and administrates EVERYTHING according to His will.
We DO find small dinos, don't we?
Here's something- people always say how you can look at the rock layers and see species evolve in complexity.
Fossils are rare as is, and may be found miles apart. Usually MUCH more. You don't see dino bones with mammals because no logical person would expect to find such together. That'd be like discovering plutonium, by accident. We see fossils of mammals. We see fossils of dinos. And yes I'm quite sure that we see fossils of small dinos. What more do you want? TTYL Jesus loves you!
the point is, that we don't find them together. As I raised in my previous post, there is no possible sorting method. Arikay I think mentioned that dinosaur bones could be heavier, but even then, this would require the dinosaurs to rot instantly in order for their bones to sink, including all the swimming and flying ones... the flood was just water, not H2SO4. If dinos and mammals co-existed on the same planet, of course you would expect to find them together. mammals exist on every continent and landmass where dinosaurs have been found, so why wouldn't we expect to find a T-Rex with an elephant bone in it's stomach or something like that?Drotar said:The Bible doesn't LIST OFF everything God did. I'm not NOT a Biblical literalist if I think the hand of God oversaw something that wasn't specifically mentioned.
BTW, I'm Calvinist- I believe that God works and administrates EVERYTHING according to His will.
We DO find small dinos, don't we?
Here's something- people always say how you can look at the rock layers and see species evolve in complexity.
Fossils are rare as is, and may be found miles apart. Usually MUCH more. You don't see dino bones with mammals because no logical person would expect to find such together. That'd be like discovering plutonium, by accident. We see fossils of mammals. We see fossils of dinos. And yes I'm quite sure that we see fossils of small dinos. What more do you want? TTYL Jesus loves you!
There is a difference all right, one is big and the other is small. But maybe the small one evolved into a biger one.Arikay said:There is a difference between a Wooden boat, and a Very Very Large wooden boat.
With the quick math of the flood I did a long time ago. I found out that around 505 Tons of water would fall on the ark per minute.[/quote\
You forgot to read your Bible though. It talks about how the water came up out of the ground. It did not all fall from the sky.
JohnR7 said:There is a difference all right, one is big and the other is small. But maybe the small one evolved into a biger one.
With the quick math of the flood I did a long time ago. I found out that around 505 Tons of water would fall on the ark per minute.[/quote\
You forgot to read your Bible though. It talks about how the water came up out of the ground. It did not all fall from the sky.
Jet Black said:the point is, that we don't find them together. As I raised in my previous post, there is no possible sorting method. Arikay I think mentioned that dinosaur bones could be heavier, but even then, this would require the dinosaurs to rot instantly in order for their bones to sink, including all the swimming and flying ones... the flood was just water, not H2SO4. If dinos and mammals co-existed on the same planet, of course you would expect to find them together. mammals exist on every continent and landmass where dinosaurs have been found, so why wouldn't we expect to find a T-Rex with an elephant bone in it's stomach or something like that?
Party Pooper.Jet Black said:let's not get off topic by talking about the ark.
bagfullofsnakes said:Party Pooper.
The flood is so much fun!
All right, all right...back on topic.
Oh, wait a second...are we waiting for a logical answer?
Hmmm...perhaps that is why the conversation took a little detour to "the flood" in the first place?
sounds a bit off topic. it also sounds like a fringe element... try not to get them confused with proper scientistsDrotar said:The Hidden History of the Human Race is a book arguing that humans as we are have existed for 100s of thousands of years or more. They are atheistic evolutionists. Perhaps I can find some resources in there.
yeap... there are no examples of fossilised human bones that look 125 million years old. not a single one. This is essentially the problem with the flood distortions theory: there is no consistency to it, there is no basis for it, there are no theoretical models for it.Arikay said:Im still curious why we dont find Fossilized Human bones with the same "flood distortions" as the dino bones.
In other words, we should find Very old Fossilized Human bones, that appear to have existed with dinosaurs.
Again, why dont we?
that of course, is the parellel opposite of the OP. Since, just the same, we should probably find unfossilized Dinosaur bones that should date similiar to humans.
Its amazing how many things we should find if YEC was true. Its also amazing how many things we Dont find.
If you want to talk about Noah's Ark, why don't you start up a thread about it.Arikay said:So, when the bible says, it "rained" thats not really Water from the sky John?
I take creation as it is described in Genesis and I have no problem to explain dinosaurs. It is really very simple, reptiles do not stop growing. If you find an old crocodile or an old turtle today, they are going to be very big, compared to the size they were when they first started out. Dinosaurs that lived a long life grew to be big. The ones that did not live as long of course were smaller.croper said:The simple fact is that people who take creation as described in Genesis can't explain dinosaurs at all.
What does the size of dinosaurs have to do with anything?JohnR7 said:I take creation as it is described in Genesis and I have no problem to explain dinosaurs. It is really very simple, reptiles do not stop growing. If you find an old crocodile or an old turtle today, they are going to be very big, compared to the size they were when they first started out. Dinosaurs that lived a long life grew to be big. The ones that did not live as long of course were smaller.
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