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<blockquote data-quote="comana" data-source="post: 74455570" data-attributes="member: 98267"><p>I already pointed out that this type of exam is not reliable to determine virginity. What happens when a virgin does not have an "intact hymen"? Who will protect the girl from her father's anger?</p><p></p><p>Subjecting a young woman to an unnecessary, humiliating, and invasive exam is abusive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> The point is that the first time is only significant because it is the first It is not necessary to put it on a pedestal though. Having said that, I personally think a person should value themselves and wait until they are ready, not give into social pressures, and have that first (or any future) experience be with someone they have developed a trust and care for. It is possible to value the intimacy of sex and still have multiple partners throughout one's life.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I did not say that is all sex is. My point was that purity culture devalues the marriageable worth of a person who is not a virgin. There are much more important traits of a person to consider and truly sad to possibly eliminate an otherwise "perfect" match because they had sex in the past.</p><p></p><p>As to men being held to a higher standard in the past and always dutifully marrying a woman he slept with? Sure, many did because they were in love or they got caught and their families forced them to, but on the whole, history would prove otherwise. Girls in "trouble" were often whisked off to maternity homes and then forced to put the child up for adoption. Others may have found themselves kicked out and homeless with an infant. And the more desperate sought out dangerous and illegal abortions.</p><p></p><p>A man who wanted to shirk his responsibility easily could and did.</p><p></p><p></p><p> In a country with a population of 350+, calling up men and women are called to war equally should leave plenty of able bodied people still at home to carry out day to day tasks. Also, perhaps there would be more hesitation to jump into a conflict on the scale that would require a draft if everyone's sons AND daughters lives were on the line.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Yes, I am well aware of all the many roles that are not on the battlefield. I still hold that if a qualified woman wants a combat MOS then go for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="comana, post: 74455570, member: 98267"] I already pointed out that this type of exam is not reliable to determine virginity. What happens when a virgin does not have an "intact hymen"? Who will protect the girl from her father's anger? Subjecting a young woman to an unnecessary, humiliating, and invasive exam is abusive. The point is that the first time is only significant because it is the first It is not necessary to put it on a pedestal though. Having said that, I personally think a person should value themselves and wait until they are ready, not give into social pressures, and have that first (or any future) experience be with someone they have developed a trust and care for. It is possible to value the intimacy of sex and still have multiple partners throughout one's life. I did not say that is all sex is. My point was that purity culture devalues the marriageable worth of a person who is not a virgin. There are much more important traits of a person to consider and truly sad to possibly eliminate an otherwise "perfect" match because they had sex in the past. As to men being held to a higher standard in the past and always dutifully marrying a woman he slept with? Sure, many did because they were in love or they got caught and their families forced them to, but on the whole, history would prove otherwise. Girls in "trouble" were often whisked off to maternity homes and then forced to put the child up for adoption. Others may have found themselves kicked out and homeless with an infant. And the more desperate sought out dangerous and illegal abortions. A man who wanted to shirk his responsibility easily could and did. In a country with a population of 350+, calling up men and women are called to war equally should leave plenty of able bodied people still at home to carry out day to day tasks. Also, perhaps there would be more hesitation to jump into a conflict on the scale that would require a draft if everyone's sons AND daughters lives were on the line. Yes, I am well aware of all the many roles that are not on the battlefield. I still hold that if a qualified woman wants a combat MOS then go for it. [/QUOTE]
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