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Michael Rood ~ A Rood Awakening

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yod said:
He was set up right next to the (real) Israelis booth and I didn't want to give any appearance of being associated with him...so I talked to someone that I know and trust who has had first hand experience with him.

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It was weirdness to me...

That's acceptable

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and an affront to the Israeli delegation he was stationed next to.



yod said:
He acts like the High Priest and denies the deity of (the hebrew) Yeshua.

Again, not my experience. Not what I heard or saw.

yod said:
He doesn't talk about Jesus.

Actually he talks alot about Jesus, but just things people don't want to hear. Because he see's a definite distinction between the Jesus that Christians know and Yeshua.

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What else need I say?

After comments like the ones in red. I do not desire to hear anymore, todah.
 
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I've finished reading Nehemia Gordon's The Hebrew Yeshua vs. The Greek Jesus, and I am no scholar of Greek or Hebrew, so I can't comment from that viewpoint. But the way he explained why he thinks at least parts of Shem-Tov's Hebrew Matthew may possibly be from the original Hebrew and not translated from Greek or Latin made sense to me, especially when he explains the purpose of the main document to which it was appended.
 
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I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Matthew absolutely was written originally in hebrew.

But I don't have to dress up like the High Priest to say that...LOL
 
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Child of the Most High said:
Credentialed scholars emphatically state that the Shem Tob Matthew is copied from a Latin vorlage. This Latin was copied from the Greek, making it a third or fourth generation copy.

My post was basically in response to this because Mr. Gordon is apparently a credentialed scholar as well, and he came to a different conclusion (and explains his reasons why) about the same document than these scholars referred to here did.

I've never seen Mr. Gordon, in person or even a photograph, so I don't know how he dresses. I have seen Mr. Rood on a videotape once. Is what he wears really what the High Priest wears? Not that Passion of the Christ might be any more authentic, but what I observed the priests wearing in that movie didn't look the same as what I saw Mr. Rood wearing, but wasn't one of those guys supposed to be portraying the actual high priest of that time? What exact garb is reserved for the high priest?
 
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From Michael Rood's website.

Michael had me remove my kippa and tassels (which I would not otherwise have done), and we proceeded to the Pool. We had to pay the Palestinian gatekeeper to unlock the gate, and then we all bathed (mikvah'ed) in the Pool, whereupon Michael and Joshua donned the priesthood garments, and performed a ritual ceremony, praying for the restoration of Israel. We found a cleft in a rock upon which to place twelve stones, and anointed them with water, and said many prayers for the nation. The spirit was strong with us as we were there for almost an hour. The ceremony ended when Michael blew the shofar into Hezekiah's tunnel.

www.michaelrood.com/news_sp00.htm
 
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I did get the levity part , but it sparked my curiosity about what an accurate portrayal of a high priest actually would look like, so I thought you or someone might be able to say so I wouldn't have to do the hard work of actually reading the scriptural descriptions myself. <----my lame attempt at levity!
 
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Child of the Most High said:
From Michael Rood's website.

Michael had me remove my kippa and tassels (which I would not otherwise have done), and we proceeded to the Pool. We had to pay the Palestinian gatekeeper to unlock the gate,

Huh???

I've been there...the fence around the Old City of Jerusalem, which included Hezekiah's tunnel, is guarded by I.D.F. because of all the excavation going on.

(it's soooo awesome! It was my favorite part of the last trip)


But, yes, Mount Zion is mostly covered by a Palestinian village called Silwan
 
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It appears that Michael Rood is a shape shifter. First he was a Baptist minister, then he was Way International leadership, then he was born a gentile, then he was a rabbi, then he was a messianic karaite, then he was a Levite, then he was billed on his website as a Jewish theologian, while Sky Angel billed him as a Christian teacher and a biblical historian. WHEW. Now he is a textual scholar. Okee dokee.

Found this review posted on the net.


http://razorskiss.net/wp/index.php?p=83
 
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Child of the Most High said:
At that same site that you referenced, there was an updated article about his tour.

If even half of the stuff reported is accurate, why would anyone go and see this guy?

Your response is exactly the problem without any verification you have allowed accusations against at minimum a brother in Yeshua to stop you from hearing for yourself. Yes Michael like everyone of us has made mistakes, I was in a group that was going cultish which I left after 1 year or so does that now make me complicent because of a past affiliation.

With that form of logic a satanist would never be accepted into fellowship after their has been a genuine repentance and declaration of Yeshua is YHWH.
The issue is; What does Michael beleive and preach now that site you mentioned has what the Reveleation calls spirit of the Akel Katzer a term for HaSatan that accuses the brethren.
Shalom,
Mikhail
 
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What you say is true, but keep in mind that one that takes on a Nazarite vow for life has many of the similar commandments and restrictions the the descendants of Aaron.
Mikhail
 
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This I only read a few days ago but it was presented in a free ebook that is available on evidence to support aramaic primacy available from www,aramaicpeshitta,com I am familiar with some of Michael's teachings as I purchase 3 of his videos a while back, though I was not aware that Michael preached about it until now.
The evidence is quite strong.
Shalom,
Mikhail
 
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I have been a beleiver for nearly 19 years in 2 weeks actually, and just because others bill him differently does not mean anything. I have seen local churches say lot's of different things to promote a visiting speaker that at times makes the speakers blush with embarassment.
I know of a Childrens Past that has been employed by 1.AOG 2.Independant 3.and now a Charasmatic Baptist church is he too a shape shifter by your logic.

Personally I have been in the following organisations.
1. Baptist - I learn't the search the scriptures for myself
2. Apostolic - Learn't about the Intercession and Gifts
3. Independant Charasmatic- Saw a leader control and manipulate beleivers
4. Assemblies of God - Saw many disasters as Pastors built and defended their little feifdoms
4a Prophetic Movement - Taught me to prophesy and step out in the speech gifts
5. Now in a Messianic Fellowship that has a pot purri of beleivers with doctrinal beleifs so differeing they are bound simply by a desire to see jewish men and women come to faith in Yeshua.

Am I also a shape shifter or simply do I go where the Ruach HaKodesh tells me to go for me to learn and teach others as he requires of me.

If I was simply wanting to build a religius reputation I would stay within a single abomination..whoops I mean denomination to maximise my contacts and climb the religous ladder of popular opnion.
Shalom,
Mikhail
 
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Yes, the evidence is quite strong. Strong that the Shem Tob Matthew is a middle age copy of a Latin text that has been altered to be used as an anti-Christian polemic. Secular Jewish scholars are also aware of this. Also, the evidence is strong that the Peshitta is a late Aramaic copy of the Byzantine Greek.

http://sor.cua.edu/Bible/Translations.html

If you have been on some of the other Messianic forums lately, you will have seen many of the semitic NT 'scholars' teachings being dismantled. There may have been a Hebrew NT, but the stuff that these guys are peddling isn't it.
 
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This is the way he has billed himself. It appears that he is tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. The question is what's next? Possibly traditional Judaism? Some people connected with him have gone that way after at one time confessing that they were believers.
 
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Many thanks to Child of the Most High for the excellent reseach. Thanks to one of the links provided, I found the references to Rood' Zecharyah prediction of which I previously wrote.



Unfortunately for Rood the Hebrew in Zech 5:9 is "shetayim nashim", i.e. two woman. Thus, while it could be argued that alef-shin-he in vs 7 was mispointed and really meant "an offering made by fire" rather than "woman" no such claim can be made about vs 9. Either Rood is incompetent in his Hebrew, or else he is deliberating deceiving. In either case , a little study will reveal the facts about Zecharyah 5.

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shmuel said:
Many thanks to Child of the Most High for the excellent reseach. Thanks to one of the links provided, I found the references to Rood' Zecharyah prediction of which I previously wrote.

You are welcome. Below are some other links that discuss the topic indepth from a Messianic Jew who runs a large forum.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/message/9095


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/message/9099


I took a look at Michael Roods teachings a few years ago. They are filled with conjecture and speculation. but I find very little fact in them. His four or five hour seminars almost resemble a type of subconscious programming. Many of the people that I have met who defend him, have no real knowledge of the Biblical texts or the languages of those texts. They are mad at the church, so they use him and his teachings as a rallying point without really investigating them.
 
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