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Michael Moore Wants Your Opinon

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By A. O. SCOTT, New York Times 10.11.02

Caution. These excerpts from Scott's review are not meant to be balanced and have been selected to point up those issues about Michael Moore that we have focused upon since last Spring.

Michael Moore's new documentary, "Bowling for Columbine," rapturously greeted at the Cannes Film Festival in May, opens today in New York City and Los Angeles in an atmosphere of intense political polarization. Not that Mr. Moore, a cheerful rabble-rouser and author of the best seller "Stupid White Men," would have it any other way. But in times of political anxiety and global insecurity — most times, in other words — arguments have a tendency to turn into shouting matches.

The most disappointing — and the most likely — response to Mr. Moore's disturbing, infuriating and often very funny film would be uncritical support from his ideological friends and summary dismissal from his foes. The slippery logic, tendentious grandstanding and outright demagoguery on display in "Bowling for Columbine" should be enough to give pause to its most ardent partisans....

Why do Americans shoot one another so much more often than the citizens of other developed countries? Why do our lives seem to be governed by fear? The recent string of killings around Washington provides a grim reminder that these issues are always timely.

These are hardly simple questions, and Mr. Moore vacillates between acknowledging their complexity and giving in to his own urge to simplify. He dismisses a number of possible answers out of hand. Is violent popular culture to blame? No, because in a country like Japan, with a tiny fraction of our gun deaths, people consume super-brutal movies, video games and comic books with even more voracity than we do. Poverty? No, since Canada and many European nations have much higher unemployment rates and much lower homicide rates. Is it our history of warfare and brutality? Compared with imperial Britain and Nazi Germany, he suggests, we're downright pacific.

But each of these assertions rides roughshod over some obvious doubts and qualifications. Unemployment, in countries with more extensive welfare states than ours, is not necessarily the same as poverty, and the wholesale brutality of states and empires engaged in wars of conquest is not the same as the retail mayhem of armed individuals.

But though he seems to be hunting for a specific historical cause for events like Columbine, Mr. Moore, when it serves his purposes, is happy to generalize in the absence of empirical evidence and to make much of connections that seem spurious on close examination. Several times he notes that the Columbine shootings occurred on the same day as the heaviest United States bombing of the Kosovo war. The more you think about this coincidence, the less it seems to mean.

He visits a Lockheed Martin plant near Columbine that manufactures missiles and pesters a company flack about the links between the factory's products and the shootings. "I guess I don't see that connection," the man says, standing in front of the company's wares. Mr. Moore and the camera clearly take him for a fool: another stupid white man doing his job. But you don't have to be a big fan of nuclear weapons to think that he might have a point.

This exchange is followed by a montage, accompanied by Louis Armstrong singing "What a Wonderful World," of American foreign policy misdeeds from the 1950's to the present. Their relevance is, again, arguable, but by now it should be clear that Mr. Moore is less interested in argument than in provocation. The last image is of the airplanes smashing into the World Trade Center, accompanied by this text: "Sept. 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his expert C.I.A. training to murder 3,000 people."

The idiocy of this statement is hardly worth engaging; it is exactly the kind of glib distortion of history that can be taken as a warrant to dismiss everything Mr. Moore has to say. And this is a shame, since much of the movie is worth engaging, and manifests genuine curiosity and a wicked satirical sense along with finger-pointing self-righteousness....

Mr. Moore's less admirable traits cannot be ignored, even — and especially — if you find merit in some of his views. The film seems to reach a natural conclusion when Mr. Moore, accompanied by two boys wounded at Columbine, visits Kmart's corporate headquarters to demand that the company stop selling ammunition. (The high school killers bought their bullets in one of its stores.) But Mr. Moore, unable to forgo another chance to prove his moral superiority, ends the film with a visit to Charlton Heston's house.

You can be repelled by Mr. Heston's actions as president of the National Rifle Association — he is shown addressing pro-gun rallies that took place in the wake of the school shootings in both Littleton and Flint, Mich. — and still find Mr. Moore's tactics distasteful. His tendency to scapegoat may satisfy his need for drama, but it makes for lousy politics.
 
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dude...wish he had a message board of some kind on that website. maybe he does, and i didn't check well enough. but e-mailing him doesn't mean that he will read it. there's more chances that he will see it on a message board. besides...him reading it doesn't mean that he will pay attention. but if it was stuck on his board......hehe. :)

 

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oh...so he DOES have one.  but it's down at the moment.  mwahaha...i'll check back at his site later.
 
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yeah...people like him are one-sided. anyways, i wouldn't write to change his opinion. but i just need him to know that not all people agree with him. just like he was booed at the oscars...there's plenty of that in the rest of the world, awaiting him.

and i don't really care if it's for publicity or not.  either way, i find his speech as rubbish.
 
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Today at 12:40 AM Mr Buddhist said this in Post #14

Sorry, but I agree with what he has to say. All this about him wanting publicity or money I think is rubbish.


Rubbish?  Please!!!  Michael Moore needs to come down off the soapbox he's been on for years.  Not for publicity or money??  What is his next movie about???  That's right, the Florida election & this war.  Hmmmmm...what a good way to get that info out there. 

Please - these idiot hollywood types only care about 1 thing....the pocket book. 

Rubbish indeed!  They are all full of it!!!
 
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Michael Moore wants my opinion?

Okay. My opinion is that he and Babsie Streisand and Jessie Lange and a few more Hollywood crybabies who have never so much as served one day in uniform for the benefit of this country ought to be sent to a small island in the south Atlantic along with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam N. Gommorah (once we catch them), where they can remain for the term of their natural lives.

I'm sure they'd all be very happy together.
 
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It sure is interesting how closed-minded Michael Moore is. I sure am glad all the super intelligent members of CF are open to anything and everything that could possibly be conceived. Keep on displaying your superhuman tolerance, folks.
Hey, that's my opinion. :) I don't apologize for it.

As for tolerance, how about Saddam N. Gomorrah when he gassed the Kurds? He should have been more tolerant, huh? ;)
 
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