Messianic Marital Advice.....

[Lotuspetal_uk]

Shalom everyone!

Sorry I haven't been around much - there's a lot going on in my life but I praise G-d continually for providing me the strength and blessing me with a renewed peace each day. For those here who know my recent events, I've just got to share with you the joy of being able to take my baby to church for the first time. It was a blessing to see how much she enjoyed it. We are fine now and safe - things are looking better, praise G-d.

Before I forget, it doesn't help having limited access to the internet so apologies if I do not respond to this thread straight away.

I need some advice concerning what a believer should do when a non believer refuses to instigate a separation/divorce but still would intend to carry out mental abuse if allowed.

Right now I am separated from my Muslim husband (in different countries). In accordance with 1 Cor 7 I have tried to reconcile our differences whilst at the same time letting him know that he needs help and that I am not prepared to return to an environment of abuse. He recently received a copy of my police report and is now unrepentant of his actions to the point of placing the blame completely at my door. He believes that all that he did (I experienced) is in line with his religion and so does not feel he needs to change to harmonise the marriage.

I need some scriptural guidance for this 'stale-mate'. I'm reluctant to divorce but will arrange for a legal separation. However I realise that it is very unlikely that we will see each other again while he is still a Muslim and/or holds onto his views because it will harm both myself and our baby.

In terms of the Messianic view, where does the believer stand when a spouse does not upheld their obligation from G-d (in terms of taking care of their spouse) to the point of torturing their spouse. In such circumstances are we okay to divorce an unbeliever or do we still (whilst protecting ourselves and children) go for a legal separation and endeavour to still salvage the marriage? What happens when the unbeliever doesn't want to compromise and has the rhetoric "my way or the highway" - can such behaviour on their part be contrued as the unbeliever destroying the marriage, thus releasing the believer from the marriage contract?

I have found with returning home that the States have better Messianic marital advice so would be grateful if someone would mind printing this off and taking it to a Rabbi who can maybe contact me here or by email.

Would appreciate any help offered and thank you in advance.

G-d bless

LP

 

[Henaynei]

Something I must say is this:

NEVER EVER go to his country of residence (or any other Islamic country, which may very soon include France, Belgium and Holland) and NEVER take your child there, no matter what assurances he gives you or how much your child demands and pleads (your child can go on their own when they are of legal age). Also NEVER allow him, or any one even remotely connected with him, to EVER have unsupervised visits with your child. If you do any of these things it is HIGHLY likely you will NEVER see your child again, and know there is NOTHING our government or courts can or will do about it.

DO NOT disregard this warning or the extreme alarm of it's intent! I have given this alarm to several women in your situation, two did not heed it. They both regret that with heart rending lament.

 

[visionary]

The division that you see in your marriage is the same division that separates Islamic Palastinians and Israel. There is no reconcillation. Your husband can not by faith believe it. You are nothing but for destruction in his faith unless you convert. You have the Lord's blessing to depart from such.

May the Lord continue to lead you and your child to safety. Flee to the wilderness if you must. Start a new life in the peace and safety of fellow believers.

May God give you strength and faith to be all that God intended.

Visionary

PS My prayer go out to you in this extremely dangerous situation.

 

[P_G]

Something I must say is this:

NEVER EVER go to his country of residence and NEVER take you child there, no matter what the assurances or how much your child demands (your child can go on their own when they are grown) - also NEVER allow him or any one even remotely connected with him EVER had unsupervised visits with this child - if you do any of these things it is HIGHLY likely you will NEVER see your child again and know there is NOTHING our government or courts can or will do about it.

DO NOT disregard this warning or the extreme alarm of it's intent! I have given this alarm to several women in your situation, 2 did not heed it, they both regret that with heart rending lament.

I got to say ditto to this sister.

If as I asume this man lives in a theocratical or partially theocratical Islamic nation you will have no rights and the US and Britton have very little influence there at all and will be reticent to even try.

These people are ruthless and evil to the core.
Your own testemony bears witness to this just one more time.

Yes little one God hates divorce. But he has a font of mercy that
neither you nor I can understand fully. Also I think that
from what I read he forbade you as a daughter of Zion to be given
in marriage to a pagan. An interesting situation.

You be blessed know you are loved


Pastor George

 

[Aethelsige]

behold HaSatan crouches at the door.

 

[ShirChadash]

*shudder* ditto all above...

 

[The Thadman]

*shudder* ditto all above...

Same here. Please, I beg you, heed their words!

Shlomo,
-Steve-o

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

Something I must say is this:

NEVER EVER go to his country of residence (or any other Islamic country, which may very soon include France, Belgium and Holland) and NEVER take your child there, no matter what assurances he gives you or how much your child demands and pleads (your child can go on their own when they are of legal age). Also NEVER allow him, or any one even remotely connected with him, to EVER have unsupervised visits with your child. If you do any of these things it is HIGHLY likely you will NEVER see your child again, and know there is NOTHING our government or courts can or will do about it.

DO NOT disregard this warning or the extreme alarm of it's intent! I have given this alarm to several women in your situation, two did not heed it. They both regret that with heart rending lament.

Amen, sis. It's a real problem in the UK with marriages like mine. The fathers have even gone as far as overpowering the ex-wife and kidnapping the children.

One of the first things I did when we had to flee was to take both her US and British passports with me, however I'm concerned that because he has her US birth certificate with him he may try to obtain a replacement passport and not tell me about it.

This is one of my biggest worries because he has threatened that if he felt I would not raise her as a Muslim he would take her and go to a Muslim country. Even though he is an American, I truly believe he would go through with this, so I have done what I can here to prevent that.

Thanks to what everyone has said here and keep me in your prayers that the L-rd may provide me with the discernment to do what is best for our baby and me.

G-d bless

 

[Henaynei]

Run, baby, run!

 

[visionary]

After much prayer, It has been impressed upon me to advise:

Pray for him, pray for his salvation, pray for mighty angels of strength to battle for his soul, and pray like you have never prayed before.

1. Miracles happen
2. The struggle with the heart and mind of this man will be great
3. The Lord will bring to mind every truth that this man has been told, shown and will convict him of the truth of the matter.
4. The devil will rage within him, and He will either surrender to Christ or go over the edge
5. This Islamic devil will kill him.

Pour you heart out unto the Lord. It was urgently pressed upon me that time for this decision process to come to a head was now. Pray, pray, and pray that the Lord does works mightly for His salvation. Unseen forces are sweeping up and upon your husband and will carry him away if He does not see the light. Urgent pray is needed.

May the Lord show Himself to your husband and convict him of that which is true. May the Lord bring him to the light and convict him that this is the path and to walk in it. May the Lord be with you and your child during this serious matter. May the Lord keep you safe from harm's way while this battle rages in your husband's heart and mind.

Visionary

 

[Henaynei]

After much prayer, It has been impressed upon me to advise:

Pray for him, pray for his salvation, pray for mighty angels of strength to battle for his soul, and pray like you have never prayed before.

1. Miracles happen
2. The struggle with the heart and mind of this man will be great
3. The Lord will bring to mind every truth that this man has been told, shown and will convict him of the truth of the matter.
4. The devil will rage within him, and He will either surrender to Christ or go over the edge
5. This Islamic devil will kill him.

Pour you heart out unto the Lord. It was urgently pressed upon me that time for this decision process to come to a head was now. Pray, pray, and pray that the Lord does works mightly for His salvation. Unseen forces are sweeping up and upon your husband and will carry him away if He does not see the light. Urgent pray is needed.

May the Lord show Himself to your husband and convict him of that which is true. May the Lord bring him to the light and convict him that this is the path and to walk in it. May the Lord be with you and your child during this serious matter. May the Lord keep you safe from harm's way while this battle rages in your husband's heart and mind.

Visionary

OMEYN!!

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

After much prayer, It has been impressed upon me to advise:

Pray for him, pray for his salvation, pray for mighty angels of strength to battle for his soul, and pray like you have never prayed before.

1. Miracles happen
2. The struggle with the heart and mind of this man will be great
3. The Lord will bring to mind every truth that this man has been told, shown and will convict him of the truth of the matter.
4. The devil will rage within him, and He will either surrender to Christ or go over the edge
5. This Islamic devil will kill him.

Pour you heart out unto the Lord. It was urgently pressed upon me that time for this decision process to come to a head was now. Pray, pray, and pray that the Lord does works mightly for His salvation. Unseen forces are sweeping up and upon your husband and will carry him away if He does not see the light. Urgent pray is needed.

May the Lord show Himself to your husband and convict him of that which is true. May the Lord bring him to the light and convict him that this is the path and to walk in it. May the Lord be with you and your child during this serious matter. May the Lord keep you safe from harm's way while this battle rages in your husband's heart and mind.

Visionary

All praise and Glory be to our L-rd.

Thank you Visionary, you have confirmed what has been placed on my heart and what I have witnessed with my eyes.

I feel so much peace and mercy from the L-rd so please continue to keep us in your prayers.

G-d bless and keep you.

 

[rooster]

After much prayer, It has been impressed upon me to advise:

Pray for him, pray for his salvation, pray for mighty angels of strength to battle for his soul, and pray like you have never prayed before.

1. Miracles happen
2. The struggle with the heart and mind of this man will be great
3. The Lord will bring to mind every truth that this man has been told, shown and will convict him of the truth of the matter.
4. The devil will rage within him, and He will either surrender to Christ or go over the edge
5. This Islamic devil will kill him.

Pour you heart out unto the Lord. It was urgently pressed upon me that time for this decision process to come to a head was now. Pray, pray, and pray that the Lord does works mightly for His salvation. Unseen forces are sweeping up and upon your husband and will carry him away if He does not see the light. Urgent pray is needed.

May the Lord show Himself to your husband and convict him of that which is true. May the Lord bring him to the light and convict him that this is the path and to walk in it. May the Lord be with you and your child during this serious matter. May the Lord keep you safe from harm's way while this battle rages in your husband's heart and mind.

Visionary

Amen!

I'll be praying for you and your baby

Let Godly wisdom guide you, Godly prudence shape your decision and His strength hold you up.
Plant yourself near family or near a strong community of christians so that you can have people looking out for you.