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There is a difference though. Christians have the mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. We can all be of one mind and one accord. "Let this mind be in you[FONT=arial, sans-serif] which was also in Christ Jesus"[/FONT]
Why is evolution, a theory about history, taught as if it is the same as operational science?
It is not me you have to believe It is God and the Bible. If you think your following God then fine, no problem, nothing to worry about. Only right now you do not seem to know who is and who is not approved by God. So that would cause me to question if you know God or not.And if all Christians agreed on things, maybe I'd believe you. But they don't, so I don't.
That pretty much is a lot of talk and even boasting without a lot of evidence to back it up. I have said many times that science makes a lot of claims that they simply can not deliver on. Just a lot of empty promises. God ALWAYS comes through for us. You can always depend on Him. I mean I know your going to go right on having faith in and believing all that evolution stuff. Just don't expect us to buy into it. We would be doing you a great disservice if we did not warn you that your house of cards will all come tumbling down someday. If there was no harm in it then it really would not matter. But the problem is your trusting and believing in something that is not going to come though for you when you need it. Better to trust in God because He will always be there for you. Better to turn to God for help in your time of need. But if you turn your back on God, then don't expect Him to be there for you when you need Him.Because it's both: it tells us...(it tells us... it lets us know...it lets us refine....
Sources are available upon request.That pretty much is a lot of talk and even boasting without a lot of evidence to back it up.
I think you're conflating science with scientists.I have said many times that science makes a lot of claims that they simply can not deliver on. Just a lot of empty promises.
1) In what way do I have faith, or put my trust in, evolution? It's an explanation for a phenomenon of the world, like the chemical theory of atoms or the supersymmetric theory of subatomic particles. Right or wrong, it's not something one puts one's faith or trust in, and if it turns out to be false, I'll shrug my shoulders and move on. Classical mechanics is beautiful in its simplicity and its elegance, but ultimately it's wrong; does that bother me? No. So why should it bother me if evolution turns out to be wrong? What possible repurcussions are you alluding to?God ALWAYS comes through for us. You can always depend on Him. I mean I know your going to go right on having faith in and believing all that evolution stuff. Just don't expect us to buy into it. We would be doing you a great disservice if we did not warn you that your house of cards will all come tumbling down someday. If there was no harm in it then it really would not matter. But the problem is your trusting and believing in something that is not going to come though for you when you need it. Better to trust in God because He will always be there for you. Better to turn to God for help in your time of need. But if you turn your back on God, then don't expect Him to be there for you when you need Him.
Such a deliciously vague passage that Christians have routinely applied to anything and everything they disagree with. You apply it to evolution because you don't like evolution, anti-gay-marriage activists apply it to gay marriage because they don't like it, anti-miscegenation activists apply it to the repeal of anti-miscegenation laws because they don't like it, etc, etc, etc.Dan 7:8 I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.
It is not me you have to believe It is God and the Bible. If you think your following God then fine, no problem, nothing to worry about. Only right now you do not seem to know who is and who is not approved by God. So that would cause me to question if you know God or not.
And why should I believe in the Bible rather than one of the other holy books out there?
Wiccan child did a nice job explaning the scientific breakthroughs. There is no such thing as "operational" science. It is a term made up by professional creationists. Ask yourself this: were you ever taught the term "operational science" in school?Since when do Darwinist theories form an important part of the medicine syllabus? Where are the scientific breakthroughs due to evolution? Why is evolution, a theory about history, taught as if it is the same as operational science?
All of what you were taught is evolution. Therefore, you were taught evolution, even if (for some perverse reason) your teacher didn't call it that. Also, it is the best and only scientific explanation for the diversity and distribution of all life on earth. As far as the rest(how life with specifications for hundreds of proteins originated just by chemistry or how the DNA code originated), that is not covered under the theory of evolution.
When I did my advanced biology courses "evolution" was on the syllabus. But what was taught to us was adaptation, natural selection, speciation and variation. Common stuff we observe. I never realized this was supposed to explain stuff like how life with specifications for hundreds of proteins originated just by chemistry or how the DNA code originated. I definitely don't consider the stuff I was taught as "evolution" as it is known today. Luckily my Bio teacher was a devout Roman Catholic and she never invoked evolution as the explanation for all life on Earth.
I doubt you will be taught any fary tales (like maybe a man made from dirt and a woman from a rib)... but you will likely be taught how evolution explains the diversity of life on this planet.
I hope when I start my veterinary medicine courses they don't start teaching me just-so fairytales about microbes turning into every extinct/extant creature we observe.
Oh, oh, I know this one, because it was written by God.
And how do you know God wrote it? Because it's in the Bible.
If you put it on the scale what do you have to lose compared to what you have to gain? Solomon wrote 1,000 books. Three of them were qualified to be included in the Bible. You should be glad someone sorted them out to give you the best.And why should I believe in the Bible rather than one of the other holy books out there?
What they call evolution has made contributions. But evolution itself has contributed nothing. Perhaps you do not care that they take truth and error and mix them together. But for some of us it makes a difference. Although at this point there is nothing to do but to let the wheat and tares grow together. Then at the end of this age God will sort it all out.Evolution has made massive contributions to science, particularly in the field of medicine.
What they call evolution has made contributions. But evolution itself has contributed nothing. Perhaps you do not care that they take truth and error and mix them together. But for some of us it makes a difference. Although at this point there is nothing to do but to let the wheat and tares grow together. Then at the end of this age God will sort it all out.
If you put it on the scale what do you have to lose compared to what you have to gain? Solomon wrote 1,000 books. Three of them were qualified to be included in the Bible. You should be glad someone sorted them out to give you the best.
So, what you seem to be saying here is that the Koran has it right and all other "theories" are wrong.
If you are going to appeal to correct by popularity, does that mean you side with the Bible or the Koran?
Not at all. I am using the law of Karma or what on the streets they say: What goes around comes around. The Bible calls this sowing and reaping. So you have the testimony of three witnesses. Actually the reference was to a fourth witness: Daniel in the book of Daniel about 2500 years ago. He made a referance to the scales of justice and being weighed in the scale and found wanting. This was a reference to Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon at the time.And are you SERIOUSLY using Pascal's wager?
Not at all. People need to know God and go by God, NOT man. The Holy Spirit of God has been given unto us to guide us and lead us into all truth. You shall know the truth and the truth sets us free.You expected them to use your definition?
By all means, elucidate the difference between 'evolution' and 'what they call evolution'.What they call evolution has made contributions. But evolution itself has contributed nothing.
So people have been saying since prehistory. The end of the world is always just around the corner, blah blah.Perhaps you do not care that they take truth and error and mix them together. But for some of us it makes a difference. Although at this point there is nothing to do but to let the wheat and tares grow together. Then at the end of this age God will sort it all out.
Ah yes, the delightfully arbitrary selection of books to constitute the modern Bible. Because that wasn't at all rife with political or religious agenda.If you put it on the scale what do you have to lose compared to what you have to gain? Solomon wrote 1,000 books. Three of them were qualified to be included in the Bible. You should be glad someone sorted them out to give you the best.
You're delusionally optimistic if you think that all criminals and only criminals are in jail.Not at all. I am using the law of Karma or what on the streets they say: What goes around comes around. The Bible calls this sowing and reaping. So you have the testimony of three witnesses. Actually the reference was to a fourth witness: Daniel in the book of Daniel about 2500 years ago. He made a referance to the scales of justice and being weighed in the scale and found wanting. This was a reference to Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon at the time.
If you think that people get away with stuff then you may want to pay a visit to your local prison. You will find a lot of people there that did not get away with anything.
Which truth, exactly? The Catholics'? Protestants'? Mormons'? Lutherans'? Presbyterians'? Eastern Orthodox? Coptics'?Not at all. People need to know God and go by God, NOT man. The Holy Spirit of God has been given unto us to guide us and lead us into all truth. You shall know the truth and the truth sets us free.
Everyone else seemed to get it right off. In fact they tell me that evolution is descent with modification. So lets take any modern theory, how about genetic drift. Now clearly I can not argue against genetic drift. What I can argue is that genetic drift does not support descent with modification. NO matter how much you think that it does. So you can prove genetic drift, but that does not prove Darwin's theory.By all means, elucidate the difference between 'evolution' and 'what they call evolution'.
Ok, I think it is important that the world does not actually end. Just an age or era ends. For example 12982 years ago the ice age came to an end. This was marked by mass extinction (Holocene) Followed by what they call the Neolithic Revolution. The first temple or public building made it's appearance at this time 12,000 years ago. Depending on who you get the date from.So people have been saying since prehistory. The end of the world is always just around the corner, blah blah.
I say allow Science to be your guide. We are told to "test all things". Science provides as good of a way to test them as any. They pretty much all make up the church of Christ.Which truth, exactly? The Catholics'? Protestants'? Mormons'? Lutherans'? Presbyterians'? Eastern Orthodox? Coptics'?
Evolutionary worship is failing.
Trust in God and overcome all. Reject God and fail.
When I did my advanced biology courses "evolution" was on the syllabus. But what was taught to us was adaptation, natural selection, speciation and variation.
Luckily my Bio teacher was a devout Roman Catholic and she never invoked evolution as the explanation for all life on Earth.
I hope when I start my veterinary medicine courses they don't start teaching me just-so fairytales about microbes turning into every extinct/extant creature we observe.
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