allhart said:
How does one measure the good in life.
Well, at the moment, I take something of a utilitarian approach - a kind of "greatest good for the greatest number" thing. What does the least harm, what has the greatest benefit... in a nutshell, anyway.
Surely there is an outside source other than what an individual see as a compass to good living.As well as evil.
Last I checked, the jury was still out on that one.
Generally as the world turns cultures , life styles changes one's views on life. Were is the standard coming from in truth ,principles , ethic and morality.As a people our emotions are chaotic and range differently for each individual . Where is the common ground for man kind come from?
Biology, perhaps. Cultures vary, but every human is human, and has the same drives and needs. We all need to eat, we all get sick, we generally avoid pain and seek pleasure, basic things like that. We are both social and self-serving.
I'm not currently a moral objectivist, so I don't think there's some external standard by which human groups figure out what is good or evil. If there were, I'd think cultures would be more similar in their ideas of taboos, laws, and so on. But what is common is that every culture does try to figure out a moral code.
I'm still thinking about that myself though, so who knows where I'll stand next week.
As for our conscience some have lost touch with reality. Plainly some are gone evil ,self serving. Not recognizing that other have self worth and have something to offer. As there losers and winner ,but the loser brought out the worth of the win.
Yes, I'd say there are people out there who are utterly self-serving, who disregard the worth of others. 'Round these parts, they call 'em "sociopaths" or "narcissists".
I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the last sentence there, though. If you are so inclined, would you clarify?
God is good all the time.
Hm. Last I checked, God's goodness was subject to debate (not to mention his existence in the first place).
Why do the non Christians use the bible as a standard towards disproving God. I think its funny.
It's been my experience that non-Christian debaters will use the Bible in an argument because we realize that's the point of reference for a Christian. In particular, it's very difficult to argue with Biblical inerrantists without referencing the Bible, as they tend to reject any other starting point.
Take it as an effort to meet you where you're coming from, if you will.
God gives everyone the freedom to chose to have him or not.
Hmm. I've been thinking about this lately, actually. If there is choice in the matter, it doesn't seem like
informed choice. But that's perhaps best reserved for a GA thread.
Then why do they try to deny him in other way other than just stating the way they have chose. In like the wind that you can't see only the effects of the wind.
"Deny" isn't quite the right word here. I tend to be skeptical of things for which I do not have good evidence. It is not so much a denial, as a suspension of belief until shown otherwise.
Granted, I have an extremely high standard of proof when it comes to the existence of God. Few theists seem to realize this, or understand the necessity for it.
I'm not sure where you're going with the bit about the wind, there.
Thank you kindly. I hope you find yourself in good health and prosperity.
