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Marrying the divorced

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What do you think about this? Especially if they have kids.

My friend has been celibate for over 7 years with his kids. He is a single parent and a man of God. But he is divorced. His wife turned to substance abuse years ago from the first year in their 10 year marriage. Now she has been gone for almost a decade.

So what do you think about marrying the divorced as well as what the Bible thinks of it?
 

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My personal belief is that it depends. If his ex has remarried, then I believe he is free to remarry. If his ex committed adultery, then I believe, he is free to remarry. If neither, then I believe he should obey what it says in 1 Corinthians.
 
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Paul talks about if your spouse abandons their faith as being another reason for divorce...when she turned to substance did she abandon God and her spouse?
If so then I believe God would recognise his divorce and you would be free to marry.

Also, there is grace (and I know its not to be abused), but ask God if you can have this man as your husband. God knows we need companionship - you only need to look at how he created Adam and Eve to see that. God designed us to love. Pray about it, and be open to all that God says.
 
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madison1101 said:
My personal belief is that it depends. If his ex has remarried, then I believe he is free to remarry. If his ex committed adultery, then I believe, he is free to remarry. If neither, then I believe he should obey what it says in 1 Corinthians.
Adultery among other things..
 
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As a stepmother I can say that "I" think that people should not marry someone with kids!!!!! LOLLOL People say "you knew what you were getting into when you married him" and that is a LIE. You knew he had kids, but you couldn't in your wildest dreams imagine what it is REALLY like. I love my familly more than words can say but I can honestly say that being in blended family is a Huge challenge. Oil and Water.
 
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Avaya said:
As a stepmother I can say that "I" think that people should not marry someone with kids!!!!! LOLLOL People say "you knew what you were getting into when you married him" and that is a LIE. You knew he had kids, but you couldn't in your wildest dreams imagine what it is REALLY like. I love my familly more than words can say but I can honestly say that being in blended family is a Huge challenge. Oil and Water.
Hmm thanks very much for your honesty. It is greatly appreciated. You're right! I can't imagine what it would be like to marry him and his kids. I don't have any children myself so I can only look in from outside at the responsibilities. However, I do know that if God has it and we should be wedded, then no doubt I will learn to master that. I am a virtous woman (Prov.31) and will still be in that school..(Phil.1:6)...so whatever the challenge I may face, with prayer and supplications...love and all I know once God's hand is in it...I should manage.
 
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Some blended marriages do work. Some don't. The background leading to a marriage break up, and what the person haas done since by way of seeking personal growth,working through issues, looking at why the marraige did break up and changing one' sown contribution to that are important factors in how a second marriage will work out.

And, of course, children must make up their own minds.

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Johnnz said:
Some blended marriages do work. Some don't. The background leading to a marriage break up, and what the person haas done since by way of seeking personal growth,working through issues, looking at why the marraige did break up and changing one' sown contribution to that are important factors in how a second marriage will work out.

And, of course, children must make up their own minds.

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Thanks for this feedback... good post.
:thumbsup: :)
 
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Johnnz said:
Some blended marriages do work. Some don't. The background leading to a marriage break up, and what the person haas done since by way of seeking personal growth,working through issues, looking at why the marraige did break up and changing one' sown contribution to that are important factors in how a second marriage will work out.

And, of course, children must make up their own minds.

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You're right. My husband's first marriage lasted 9 months - just long enough for the baby to arrive - the baby they got married because they were pregnant with. So in my mind, I don't even count that as a marriage. Our marriage is in it's 10th year. There have been MANY troubled times, but we are together today ONLY because God is in this marriage with us. If not for Him, we would have divorced a LONG time ago. Marriage is hard. Second marriages are hard. Without God I don't know how ANY marriage makes it.
 
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Avaya said:
Our marriage is in it's 10th year. There have been MANY troubled times, but we are together today ONLY because God is in this marriage with us. If not for Him, we would have divorced a LONG time ago. Marriage is hard. Second marriages are hard. Without God I don't know how ANY marriage makes it.
Congratulations!!! and Thank God. This is what stuck out most to me.

Indeed...no matter how many times you were married and for whatever reasons, without God being the center, begining and end, then the marriage won't succeed. :amen:

I've seen my church mom and mentor endure with 2 divorces abusive relationships with 3 kids. She met her husband when she was 31 yrs old...he was 19. They have been married now and living happily in the Lord for 13 years. So I KNOW this can happen if God is apart of the relationship.
 
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What is sad, is that many Christians assume that people who remarry will not find fulfillment in their marriage because God will not bless an adulterous union. I do not see it that way. If a couple marries after one or both spouses has been divorced and the divorce was not on Scriptural grounds (ie, adultery) they can always ask forgiveness. This topic came up on the Singles board and it was argued that because remarried people have given into selfish desires instead of following the Word of God, they cannot properly serve in a ministry position of spread the Gospel effectively. Eh, I disagree.
 
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fluffy_rainbow said:
and it was argued that because remarried people have given into selfish desires instead of following the Word of God, they cannot properly serve in a ministry position of spread the Gospel effectively. Eh, I disagree.
I agree that they can have wonderful second marriages. I've never been divorced, but my husband married badly the first time and was divorced. We have a wonderful, and Godly marriage. I know that we are a blessing in our church and an inspiration to other married couples.

But I think you're saying that divorced people should hold positions in the church and for positions like Deacon and Pastor, I disagree. I don't think they qualify for those positions. Not that they couldn't do an excellent job, but God's word speaks against it so no matter how good they could be at it, I don't think He blesses that. And it doesn't matter because He does have a place for divorced men in the church, it's just not as deacon or pastor.
 
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Peculiarone said:
What do you think about this? Especially if they have kids.

My friend has been celibate for over 7 years with his kids. He is a single parent and a man of God. But he is divorced. His wife turned to substance abuse years ago from the first year in their 10 year marriage. Now she has been gone for almost a decade.

So what do you think about marrying the divorced as well as what the Bible thinks of it?
With all due respect, it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks about this, or what the Church thinks about it...what really matters is what the Bible says about it, because we don't get to heaven by following the Church, but by following our Lord.

The Bible is quite clear that for a divorced person to remarry means that they (and their new spouse) are committing adultery.

fluffy_rainbowWhat is sad, is that many Christians assume that people who remarry will not find fulfillment in their marriage because God will not bless an adulterous union. I do not see it that way. If a couple marries after one or both spouses has been divorced and the divorce was not on Scriptural grounds (ie, adultery) they can always ask forgiveness.
How can a person ask forgiveness for this when they would be doing something that the BIble says is wrong? The Bible is clear that forgiveness requires the person being repentant. Repentance means to agree with God that what you're doing is wrong, and to stop doing it. Forgiveness comes with repentance, not without it. Will God really forgive when we know something's wrong but go into it saying 'oh well, it's ok really because I'll just ask forgiveness'??? That would make a mockery of God and what it cost Him to send His Son for us...

Also, back to the OP...when the man you're talking about made his vows to his first wife he entered into a covenant with her, and vowed to be faithful to her and love her etc, until death parts them. And these vows not conditional vows such as 'I'll love you as long as you love me, be faithful to me and never leave me.' They were made unconditionally, and do not depend on what the other person does. When we vow to love our spouse, we vow it despite what they do, not because they make it easy for us to do this...

If one spouse leaves, the other is still accountable before God to fulfill the vows that they made - one person forsaking their vows does not mean that the other one can also forsake theirs. They're not released from their vows because the other person left, because they vowed before God to be faithful until death parts them. And they're accountable to God to follow Him and keep the vows they made regardless of the circumstance.

I know this may come across as a really strong opinion, but my concern is that people are misled by their pastors, and that EVERYONE is responsible for following the Lord and doing what His Word says. We are responsible for searching the scriptures for ourselves to find out if what we're being taught is the truth, and if it's not then we need to have the guts to take a stand and not just fit in with everyone else.

Obviously I can't influence anyone's decision and I don't want to either, because I want people to follow the Lord. But I'm just begging you all to look at what the Bible says and do it, regardless of personal feeling on the matter. That's one reason why we have God's Word, so that when we're emotional and messed up and struggling, we have our instructions clearly written in black and white and therefore know it's the truth. We are then able to follow it because we can discount our own emotions in order to follow what God's written in His Book, knowing that He will sustain us and keep us, and give us the strength to do what is required of us.

Blessings in Him...
 
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