Marriage question

[rud517]

Greetings all. Looking for some advice from fellow Believers alike. My niece asked me recently to marry her. While I was overcome with excitement, I had to step back and talk to my wife about it. We are Christians first and foremost. She mentioned that she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church. They asked another couple, however they declined for a religious reasons. While I love my niece and her fiance too, I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

 

[AlexB23]

Greetings all. Looking for some advice from fellow Believers alike. My niece asked me recently to marry her. While I was overcome with excitement, I had to step back and talk to my wife about it. We are Christians first and foremost. She mentioned that she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church. They asked another couple, however they declined for a religious reasons. While I love my niece and her fiance too, I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

Umm, it is not that good for you and your gene pool to marry your niece (plus you already have a wife), and there may be legal issues with this.

Avunculate marriage - Wikipedia

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But, if you are officiating the marriage of your niece and her non-genetically related partner, then, that is okay. Just ask a fellow religious leader about this. @Daniel9v9 , can you help Rud?

 

[Larry H.]

Greetings all. Looking for some advice from fellow Believers alike. My niece asked me recently to marry her. While I was overcome with excitement, I had to step back and talk to my wife about it. We are Christians first and foremost. She mentioned that she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church. They asked another couple, however they declined for a religious reasons. While I love my niece and her fiance too, I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

I was about to shut down for the night then happen to see this and just had to respond on such an important decision.
When my wife and I got married I hadn't been to church in several years and was nothing less than a sinner. On the other hand she was very devoted to God. Sha actually attended a Holiness church and would have never married me if not for my persistence. Because of my lack of faith in God's guidance, we struggled for the first 10 years up into the time that I accept Christ as the full authority over my life and my marriage. When I did that everything turned around. On the other hand I seen all four of my siblings do the same, years after leaving the church, get married. All four of their marriages failed. With that said. I would say before she makes such a decision there would need to be some serious counseling. One-on-one and as a couple. If it would help I have my written testimony as well as other biblical material on marriage I got from my studying of Gods word I'd be glade to share. God bless

 

[Reluctant Theologian]

Umm, it is not that good for you and your gene pool to marry your niece (plus you already have a wife), and there may be legal issues with this.

Avunculate marriage - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But, if you are officiating the marriage of your niece and her non-genetically related partner, then, that is okay. Just ask a fellow religious leader about this. @Daniel9v9 , can you help Rud?

Funny, you don't seem to be reading the question correctly - the OP doesn't say his niece wants to enter into a marriage with him as his 2nd wife, but is just asking whether he could conduct her marriage ceremony

Of course I also understand in certain cultures/regions a niece may also request to become the 2nd wife - I just also wouldn't recommend that for the obvious genetic reasons you already tabled.

 

[AlexB23]

Funny, you don't seem to be reading the question correctly - the OP doesn't say his niece wants to enter into a marriage with him as his 2nd wife, but is just asking whether he could conduct her marriage ceremony

Of course I also understand in certain cultures/regions a niece may also request to become the 2nd wife - I just also wouldn't recommend that for the obvious genetic reasons you already tabled.

Yeah, it is a joke. I knew he was trying to conduct a marriage, when I was making the post, but kept it as a joke.

 

[Paidiske]

Greetings all. Looking for some advice from fellow Believers alike. My niece asked me recently to marry her. While I was overcome with excitement, I had to step back and talk to my wife about it. We are Christians first and foremost. She mentioned that she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church. They asked another couple, however they declined for a religious reasons. While I love my niece and her fiance too, I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

In what capacity would you be solemnising their marriage? As a civil celebrant, or a minister of religion?

As a civil celebrant, why should their religion matter? As a minister of religion, does your church not have guidelines about whom you may solemnise marriages for?

(In Australia, as a minister of religion, I am only legally allowed to solemnise marriages for "adherents of my own religion," so that helps keep things simple; but I am not clear how things are in America).

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Marry them. It’s an honor to be asked and if you’re operating in a civil or religious capacity is irrelevant since, I’d hope, you and your wife will wish blessings on them regardless of if you’re the officiant or not.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread was moved to a Christian Only forum as the OP wanted to hear from Christians. ​

 

[Yuwang]

Umm, it is not that good for you and your gene pool to marry your niece (plus you already have a wife), and there may be legal issues with this.

Avunculate marriage - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Leviticus 18 has rules about who one should not mate with. Some matings harm the offspring and genetic heritage.
Leviticus 18:6 None approach any that is near kin.
"NIECE is a daughter of one's brother, sister, brother-in-law, or sister-in-law. I do not see anything against mating with the daughter You described unlesss she fits the limitations of Leviticus 18. If You accept the offer, then have good health, plenty money and happiness.

 

[AlexB23]

Leviticus 18 has rules about who one should not mate with. Some matings harm the offspring and genetic heritage.
Leviticus 18:6 None approach any that is near kin.
"NIECE is a daughter of one's brother, sister, brother-in-law, or sister-in-law. I do not see anything against mating with the daughter You described unlesss she fits the limitations of Leviticus 18. If You accept the offer, then have good health, plenty money and happiness.

You did not get the joke. Well, I just made a devotional on marriage, so the OP might like it. Also, you did not introduce yourself, so I do not know you yet. Try and introduce yourself in the forum intro page.

Hebrews 13:4 (NIV): "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."

Honoring Your Marriage:

Honoring Your Marriage

Hello folks. Yes, single guy here, but this devotional is important for everyone, whether married or not, as we must treat each other with respect in our families and relationships. Date August 5, 2024 | Honoring Your Marriage Verse Ephesians 5:21-25 (NIV): "Submit to one another out of...

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[Yuwang]

You did not get the joke. Well, I just made a devotional on marriage, so the OP might like it. Also, you did not introduce yourself, so I do not know you yet. Try and introduce yourself in the forum intro page.

Hebrews 13:4 (NIV): "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."

Honoring Your Marriage:

Honoring Your Marriage

Hello folks. Yes, single guy here, but this devotional is important for everyone, whether married or not, as we must treat each other with respect in our families and relationships. Date August 5, 2024 | Honoring Your Marriage Verse Ephesians 5:21-25 (NIV): "Submit to one another out of...

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Regarding Hebrews 13:4: The definition of "marriage" was much different in those days. Today, Marriage is basically legalized commercial sex.
The State insists on getting a fee for a marriage license. A license is permission to do what is otherwise unlawful.
The Greek word Gamos is now defined as "marriage" which is unlawful unless you get a license. What happened to the Father of the female to give His permission and blessing of a Man-Woman union? That was generally the rule before marriage licenses were invented and imposed.
On top of that, our glorious peoples leaders limit the age of man-woman union past the best time for it, and do not provide help for such marriages, save to throw the man in jail.
Under Hitler's rules, young marriages were encouraged, because that is the best time, and the German State gave assistance to young "marriages".
Hebrews 13:4 does not say "sexually immoral". It does mention whoremongers & adulterers, but in Greeek whoremonger is "for not "porne".

 

[Jermayn]

Greetings all. Looking for some advice from fellow Believers alike. My niece asked me recently to marry her. While I was overcome with excitement, I had to step back and talk to my wife about it. We are Christians first and foremost. She mentioned that she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church. They asked another couple, however they declined for a religious reasons. While I love my niece and her fiance too, I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

I feel like marrying non-Christians is basically just signing a contract so the government can tax them appropriately, but you should follow your own convictions on the matter. Different story if it were same sex marriage. Have no part in that mess.

 

[AlexB23]

Regarding Hebrews 13:4: The definition of "marriage" was much different in those days. Today, Marriage is basically legalized commercial sex.
The State insists on getting a fee for a marriage license. A license is permission to do what is otherwise unlawful.
The Greek word Gamos is now defined as "marriage" which is unlawful unless you get a license. What happened to the Father of the female to give His permission and blessing of a Man-Woman union? That was generally the rule before marriage licenses were invented and imposed.
On top of that, our glorious peoples leaders limit the age of man-woman union past the best time for it, and do not provide help for such marriages, save to throw the man in jail.
Under Hitler's rules, young marriages were encouraged, because that is the best time, and the German State gave assistance to young "marriages".
Hebrews 13:4 does not say "sexually immoral". It does mention whoremongers & adulterers, but in Greeek whoremonger is "for not "porne".

Ok

 

[Paidiske]

On top of that, our glorious peoples leaders limit the age of man-woman union past the best time for it, and do not provide help for such marriages, save to throw the man in jail.

"Best time" by what measure? Certainly not the lifelong wellbeing of the bride.

 

[com7fy8]

she was torn due to my niece and her Sue to be husband not Believers and not getting married in a church.

I'm torn with the morality of the situation. Any advice?

If your wife is torn and you are torn . . . I would say not to do this unless God gives *both* of you peace and guides you how to do this. Make sure you pray and are in agreement through prayer with your wife, in any case.