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Britain Could Be a 'Chip' Society Soon
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CBNNews.com - British citizens could be forced to have microchip implants in the not-so-distant future that would store personal information and allow people to be tracked.
An official report on the rise of what it calls the "Big Brother" state in the United Kingdom, concluded that the prospect of 'chip-citizen' society could be possible in the next ten years, the London Daily Mall reported in October.
The report, which addressed the spread of surveillance technology in the country, was produced by a group of leading academics for Britain's Information Commissioner Richard Thomas.
It claims that Britons are currently the most spied-upon citizens in the free world. The chip, it says, could be used to monitor the movements, purchases, and communications of British citizens within ten years.
The London Daily Mall also reported earlier that teenage shoppers are more open to the idea of using microchip implants to pay for items.
 

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Britain Could Be a 'Chip' Society Soon
CBN News



November 2, 2006







CBNNews.com - British citizens could be forced to have microchip implants in the not-so-distant future that would store personal information and allow people to be tracked.
An official report on the rise of what it calls the "Big Brother" state in the United Kingdom, concluded that the prospect of 'chip-citizen' society could be possible in the next ten years, the London Daily Mall reported in October.
The report, which addressed the spread of surveillance technology in the country, was produced by a group of leading academics for Britain's Information Commissioner Richard Thomas.
It claims that Britons are currently the most spied-upon citizens in the free world. The chip, it says, could be used to monitor the movements, purchases, and communications of British citizens within ten years.
The London Daily Mall also reported earlier that teenage shoppers are more open to the idea of using microchip implants to pay for items.
Church Group Warns British Government
The London Daily Telegraph



November 6, 2006







CBNNews.com -- A leading church group in Britain is threatening what it calls a "violent revolution" if the government continues its assault against religious freedom.

The Evangelical Alliance, added "at some point there is not only the right, but the duty to disobey the state."

The statements come just weeks after British Airways suspended an employee from wearing a crucifix.
The London Telegraph reports that some are concerned that the group's revolutionary-tone is similar to the one that comes from islamic radicals.
 
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Remember that the main purpose of the Mark is a declaration of worship or loyalty. The economic aspects of it are just a sideline, a coincidental aspect. God surely wouldn't send a person to hell for getting a chip implanted. Revelation makes it clear that those who accept the Mark are worshipping the Beast.
 
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Even though there might be some sort of implant to identify you I still believe there will be a "mark" -possibly a tattoo indicating perhaps where the implant is. Further I believe that it is not so much the implant that is opposed to by believers but that the skin is marked in contravention of Lev 19:28 bearing in mind that the believer during that period are obedient to the Law of Moses.
 
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again, revelation, the mark has to do with trade

He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

i do think it's funny that the country where 1984 was basically based is the nation puported to be the one with the best big brother system in place. lol so orwellian...

anyway all jokes aside, who cares, we all know it's coming, or at least those who take God at His word, personally i think it's cool in terms of the midnight hour approaching but at the same time, i constantly ask myself, if confronted in a day where the antichrist walks the earth, will i be strong enough in Christ that I won't fall away?...
 
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again, revelation, the mark has to do with trade



i do think it's funny that the country where 1984 was basically based is the nation puported to be the one with the best big brother system in place. lol so orwellian...

anyway all jokes aside, who cares, we all know it's coming, or at least those who take God at His word, personally i think it's cool in terms of the midnight hour approaching but at the same time, i constantly ask myself, if confronted in a day where the antichrist walks the earth, will i be strong enough in Christ that I won't fall away?...
I think we can avoid him.
We can avoid being marked without having to refuse the mark.
We can plan for this.
 
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Forgive me if I get this wrong...

We are told the antichrist would be crafty enough to even have a chance of fooling the very elect, correct? We also know that the mark is a sign of loyalty to A MAN. Are there ANY oaths of allegiance with this chip. I personally feel the "mark" will be a LOT more insidious than a marketing chip. Remember the culture St. John wrote to : they were Jewish Christians who still wore phylacteries - a box containing scriptures bound to the head or hand (wrist, actually). Now, methinks we'll see, not phylacteries, but something a wee bit more "harmless", maybe, a definitely more evil than an implanted piece of silicon.

Anyway, doesn't all this "mark-watching" and anti-christ prepping take away from our primary task of watching for Christ's return?

Forgive me.
 
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What if the mark meant something more than a physical appearance? What if the mark meant the same thing as the seal of God in our hearts and minds? What if those who recieved the mark of the beast are those who give homage and complete loyalty with their heart and mind, and do all their deeds with their hands to the Anti-Christ? What if? To receive an implant means what? Even if this was done by force or trickery, is this really the way God works with mankind? Would even those who received the beloved Revelation have a chance at understanding this? John in his letter says, "Blessed (how happy) is he that reads and understands the prophesies of this book, for the time is near.....

Seeing this wonderful letter of the blessed hope and suffering in the Tribulation of John and those who received were going through such a Tribulation, how could this offer hope to anyone of those days if a mark which we call a chip or tattoo be of any sense or value to them? They were the ones who needed the hope, so how could they avoid something that would never happen in their day?

Hello folks, I'm new to this site and I hope I didn't disturb or offend anyone. My goal is not to teach anyone, but to ask questions to help you consider what is you may believe or were taught.

Imagine living in a small town with folks who worship the God of Zues, Andrameda, Jupiter, and many such gods. One day, someone yells at you as you're walking to the street market, "LOOK! Here is a person who eats human flesh and eats human blood! He teaches and misleads our servants to worship someone they call Jesus! He's of this sect called Christians! Arrest him now!"

You're taken to a gloomy, dark, wet and rainy prison. You find ourselves in the midst of others in your situation. No food, your cold and hungry, and very worried about your situation. Dark falls and you didn't sleep a wink. By morning, even more hungry and cold, you encounter many prison guards who enter with spears. Your hands and feet have been tied and your approaching a stadium, where in contains thousands chearing and shouting! You hear the roar of lions and barking of wild dogs! You're taken to a cage with a few others, but the rest in your group are taken outside. Then you hear it! A loud roar and screams you couldn't imagine! The crowd chears even louder as they chant, "Let him die! Let him die!" Your heart begins to pound, harder....harder...harder....then another loud noise! The cage is opened....AND YOU'RE NEXT! A guard graps your arm and yanks you into the middle of a large arena. You know you heard the roar of lions, but the only thing you see is what was once a human being, laying on the ground, having been shredded to pieces. Off at the distance, someone sitting and motioning the crowd for silence. The crowd lowers, and a proud voice begins to utter, "Are you a Christian?" At first you say nothing. But the guard smites you on your head with the handle of his sword and demands you to answer. Your shaky voice replies, "Yes, I am a Christian!" Suddenly, the crowd begins to shout, "Away with him! Kill Him!" The proud one then utters, "I will spare your life if you will do a very small thing...worship me as your king! Offer a small pinch of insense to the gods and renouce your King, and I will spare your life....What say you?" Will you renouce your God and do a very small thing? Surely your God will understand your fear and spare you, would he not? For I alone have the power to spare you.....now what is your answer?"

Before you answer, three more are taken out of their cages and begin to throw themselves in full view of the Emperor and begin shouting, "I am not a Christian! You are my god, oh mighty Caesar!" The crowd cheers and begins shouting, "Caesar! Caesar! Caesar!" They were then set free and given food and clothing. Now all eyes are upon you. But your faith is strong! You cannot renouce the one who is your life! But surely the forgiveness of Christ will forgive even just a small pinch of insense.....you then shout aloud, "I am a Christian and I have no other God but the God whom I serve in Heaven! Jesus, my Lord!" The crowd again shouts, "Kill him! Kill him!" You lift up your hands in prayer with your eyes closed and a smile on your face. This is your moment, knowing that angles are shouting high above. You hear the cage open and the sharp sound of heavy feet, running towards you.....and then.....

A bright light.....so beautiful....and entering into an abode where the trees are beautiful, the lands very green, and the arms of a might King who embrace you with the shouting of joy as the others who were murdered as you were cheered your glory....you have passed the test and entered into life with our God.

Does this make more sense my fellow brothers and sisters? Or would you prefer the story of a chip?
 
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I reckon avoiding this mark is going to be easy , well at least for us ,so let's look at .........

Rev 19:20-And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.

Notice the ones who take the mark are the ones who are decieved by the false prophets miracles , it is because of his miracles that they are decieved , and the only miracle mentioned in Rev is fire from heaven .

Ok , so we need to look for a religion that is awaiting a prophet , and what meaning it would have to these people if this prophet should make fire come down from heaven.

Any ideas ?

Coz all I know is if some dude makes fire come down from heaven then I'm heading in the oposite dirrection..:)
 
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umm, well if those who follow the mahdi are the ones who are in control of the mark, i'm pretty sure it will be 'take the mark or be beheaded'... seems to match the islamist teachings about what to do to infidels and I've spoken personally to a converted muslim who teaches worldwide about what the koran really teaches and this is stuff we need to take seriously...

when you're confronted with take the mark or have your head hacked off, what do you think you'll do?

don't forget the beheadings in iraq, remember the Korean guy pleading in tears 'I don't want to die! I don't want to die!' A few days later he was beheaded in the most brutal way...

I work in the news business, I saw the video of what really happened in those things, I saw many beheaded bodies... A lot with their heads placed upon the chests of those who were killed in the name of Allah and Jihad... It was extremely graphic and video we could not show on air in a newscast... Being that I was editing the news at that time I saw the video come down the pipeline from CNN and CBS through pathfire and newspathnow and had the stomach churning joy (not) of having to watch this stuff...

Guys this stuff is real, the question I ask, is how many people who claim Christ today are prepared to be confronted with what those who were beheaded in Iraq went through?

Can anyone here tell me that if they were faced with the choice of taking the mark or having your head hacked off, not a guillotine, not a nice samurai sword, but with a blunt knife that hacks into your neck over and over again while you are fully conscious and aware of every single slice into your body, that they would not take the easy route and take the mark. If anyone says they are prepared to face that head on without fear when the easy choice would be to take the mark, then I say right on...

For me, I'm scared of what my choice would be... I know for me i'd rather take a cyanide pill than face having my head hacked off...

I'm not afraid of the mark of the beast, I'm afraid of my own heart when confronted with what I've outlined above. To be honest, without the supernatural intervention of God, I'd have to say right now I don't think I could deal with having my head hacked off... I'm just being honest about my own sinful human heart...

I'm praying and asking God for mercy when he takes me from this life to the next, but what I've outlined above is what I consider to be the worst way ever to leave this earth, and being real it scares me.

BTW on a note about the times that this stuff is coming... Imagine a world where Islam is on the rampage, non christians are so fearful they quickly and easily convert to the violent religion through fear. Imagine a world where people can be tracked anytime anywhere... I live down the road from Area 51, I know one of the top Area 51 investigative reporters personally and I know of the spy devices that exist, not only are there predator spyplanes, but they have micro sized surveillance technology as well... There will be nowhere to run, there will be nowhere to hide... Infrared cameras will be able to track people day and night, movements will be able to be recorded, associations between people and objects (RFID, GPS Tracking and much more are already technologies that exist, especially in a post 9/11 world)... We need to look at the bigger picture, we need to look at the technology that is coming down the pipeline and where it's headed... We have to get out of a 'now' only mindset and start thinking about what the future really holds...

In the time of the Anti Christ, there will be nowhere to run, there will be nowhere to hide... About the only place would be the caves in Pakistan near where Osama is reportedly hiding, and even then the US dept of energy is trying to get approval to test 'Divine Strake' a non-nuclear cave busting bomb at the Nevada test site... It's currently on hold while they do safety studies of the test for fears of radiocative dust being blown up into the atmosphere from previous nuke tests...

Some may want to argue over what I've shared, and I'm not going to get drawn into a debate over current events and the path we're headed towards... Everything I've shared about technology and current events is real, these systems are all in motion today... It just takes time, an anti-christ (i.e. dictator) who can use these for evil plans, and we have a major problem as Christians...

I personally don't want to be a part of the 'great falling away', but when I look at this stuff, it makes me question my own heart if these things were to occur in my lifetime... The question I ask myself over and over is 'will i have the courage to stand and refuse the mark or would i allow fear to rule and take the easy way out and lose my place in eternity?'
 
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After Babylon is destroyed, thus began the wedding feast. The holy ones gained control of the Kingdom which shall have no end. Satan, who had deceived those, was cast into the prison for the 1000 years to keep him from decieving the nations until the 1000 years are ended. After this, he is set free for a short time to rebuild his army.

What does he rebuild? An army of deception in order to prepare for the final attack against the saints. But if this is the final attack, when was there a first?

The Roman Empire of the first century first destroyed the old kingdom, by the mighty hand of God. All the Old Testaments prophesied about the destruction of Jerusalem and a new and better Irsrael was to take its place. The New Israel is us, the Church. Once Jerusalem was destroyed, the Kingdom of Light was given to the Saints. The Saints are the Christians, which ruled the earth, and still reigns the earth, with Christ in their hearts, the true and living temple of God.

It was during the 1000 years the Saints were given time for fruitful multiplication. After the 1000 years, Satan has been released a short time....Are we in the "short time" period? Let's first see if there was peace with the Kingdom of Saints. There was. After the end of the first century, the Roman Empire began to decline, but as Daniel's vision fortold, this beast would be permitted to have an extension of life. The life of the Roman Empire had fully declinded by the 3rd century. Her once pagan religious state was transformed into the Kingdom of God and the very same beastly Empire which tried to destroy Christianity, became the same Empire that protected and established the Kingdom. Barnabus, an early church Bishop or Father, writes, "The enemy that destroyed the city and the temple, shall they themselves rebuild it...this has happened". Though some think Barnabus was referring to the Roman temple being build in place of the former temple, and thus in the year 131 AD, Bar Kapha (spelling), a Jewis rebell declared himself to be the Messiah and started a new rebellion. But this rebellion was met with a fatal blow which banned Jews from ever entering into the land again, except once a year to remember the destruction. But the Church would endure a time of peace and fruitful multiplication while Satan was bound. Eusebius, in the 3rd century, declared the very same thing, that there could be no dispute about the peace they enjoyed and how the calamity of the Jews was by the very hand of God, and that the Roman Empire which was once a pagan threat to the Church, had been destroyed by the mighty kingdom of God. Thus, Daniel's vision was fulfilled when the Kingdom of God over-powered the Roman Empire.

For the first 1000 years, the Church has ruled and dominated the face of the planet. At least until the year 622 AD when Islam was introduced. By the year 1095, Muslims had grown to an alarming number and attacked many Christian churches. The churches in Asia Minor were destroyed (now Turkey). The Roman Church in Jerusalem was chased away; this started the Crusades. And since that time, this same enemy has declared war on those of the cross.

You have every right to be afraid. Islamic terrorists are on the way whether we like it or not. But we have our first century examples of bravery, steadfastness, and holliness to God. They lost their lives when the Beast and the AC attacked them. Yet, all those knew of a much better world; the world of above where only the righteouss dwell with our King. Those who love the world set their minds on wordly things. But those who look above, set their minds on heavenly things. But our fear is not of them, but of God who has the power to destroy or spirits as well as our souls. Keep in mind my dearest friends the God is the ruler of the universe. And although Satan is attacking, or may attack, he does not have the same authority and dominion he once had. Christ has the keys of David, and has the power to establish peace or punish with a rod. All things are accomplished by His will, and His alone. God's judgements are perfect, and if it's His desire that our country suffer wrath, then let us embrace His righteouss judgement and dicipline. For, "God diciplines those He loves, and accepts those He regards as His sons / daughters". No child enjoys dicipline at the moment it occurs. But once we have been trained by it, we will be more compassionate and gentle, and will shine like the stars of the sky. Do not look light on the Lord's dicipline.

There were a few Orthodox fathers kidnapped a few weeks ago and beheaded, one while his wife was on the cell phone. But before they beheaded him, they cut off his legs and arms, and his wife heard his frantic screams. The next morning, they found his head placed on his chest with his arms and legs forming a circle.

What am I saying in all this? You may be witnissing Satan's final attack against the children of light. If it comes, I know it will be hard, perhaps not directly on us, but or children. Our children are spoiled and do not listen to authority. They could be kidnapped and used against us by terrorists. Not that terrorists hope to kill children, but they have in Iraq, mostly young Christian females being raped and killed. But their goal would be to kill anyone of ruling authority, or who holds with high esteem the teachings of Christianity.

Friends, we are in safety now, and none of us know when or if the enemy will reach us. But know this. Revelation states, "They marched accross the heart of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's holy people and the city He loves. BUT FIRE comes down from heaven and devours them. And Satan who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire".

The Holy city is not the old Jerusalem everyone has their eye upon, for the city has long sense been destroyed. The holy city is the Israel of God. Christ was crucified outside the gates in the camp. And the author of Hebrews encouraged the early church Christians to maintain their relationship in the camp where our Lord was crucified. What does this mean? In the Old Testament, the camp were the soldiers who had to maintain purity before going into battle. But we as Christians do not fight with weapons of metal or destruction. Our weapons are plowshares and prunning hooks; spiritual weapons against darkness and evil. And our holliness is of the Lord. Satan's attack is not against the old city which was once filled with darkness, and still is to this day. No, Satan's attack is against the children of light, the holy city (Church) that God loves. But soon God's wrath will be poored out upon Satan and his army.

Be strong. Pray for peace. Pray for those who are held captive by the Devil, and pray that God will not let this destruction come to America. If it does, then it will be up to God to either spare or refine us. But how can gold which has become tarnished regain its splender? It must be refined through the fires.
 
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Remember, Revelation doesn't say the Beast kills those who will not accept the mark. It says he kills those who do not worship him. It says those without the mark cannot buy or sell.

...i'm pretty sure it will be 'take the mark or be beheaded'...when you're confronted with take the mark or have your head hacked off, what do you think you'll do?

Although it seems somewhat reasonable to conclude that those who do not take the mark will be killed, Revelation does not say so, specifically. What it says is that you can't buy or sell without the mark. If you are automatically killed for not accepting the mark, I would think your inability to buy or sell would be insignificant. Dead people don't care if they can buy or sell.

Ok , so we need to look for a religion that is awaiting a prophet , and what meaning it would have to these people if this prophet should make fire come down from heaven.

Any ideas ?

I believe that Satan has been trying to get enough followers to "take over" the earth for thousands of years. I believe he has tried many things, none of which has completely worked. It is possible that Islam is his latest scheme, and it may work. It also may not. But, if he can get enough people to convert, by force or by choice, I believe that is when the AC will arrive, and the tribulation will happen.
 
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I work in the news business, I saw the video of what really happened in those things, I saw many beheaded bodies
Being that I was editing the news at that time I saw the video come down the pipeline from CNN and CBS through pathfire and newspathnow and had the stomach churning joy (not) of having to watch this stuff...

Can anyone here tell me that if they were faced with the choice of taking the mark or having your head hacked off, not a guillotine, not a nice samurai sword, but with a blunt knife that hacks into your neck over and over again while you are fully conscious and aware of every single slice into your body, that they would not take the easy route and take the mark. If anyone says they are prepared to face that head on without fear when the easy choice would be to take the mark, then I say right on...

To be honest, without the supernatural intervention of God, I'd have to say right now I don't think I could deal with having my head hacked off... I'm just being honest about my own sinful human heart...

I live down the road from Area 51, I know one of the top Area 51 investigative reporters personally and I know of the spy devices that exist, not only are there predator spyplanes, but they have micro sized surveillance technology as well... There will be nowhere to run, there will be nowhere to hide... Infrared cameras will be able to track people day and night, movements will be able to be recorded, associations between people and objects (RFID, GPS Tracking and much more are already technologies that exist, especially in a post 9/11 world)... We need to look at the bigger picture, we need to look at the technology that is coming down the pipeline and where it's headed... We have to get out of a 'now' only mindset and start thinking about what the future really holds...

In the time of the Anti Christ, there will be nowhere to run, there will be nowhere to hide.

Some may want to argue over what I've shared, and I'm not going to get drawn into a debate over current events and the path we're headed towards... Everything I've shared about technology and current events is real, these systems are all in motion today... It just takes time, an anti-christ (i.e. dictator) who can use these for evil plans, and we have a major problem as Christians...

I personally don't want to be a part of the 'great falling away', . The question I ask myself over and over is 'will i have the courage to stand and refuse the mark or would i allow fear to rule and take the easy way out and lose my place in eternity?'


Now is the acceptable hour of salvation.

If you die to yourself now , you wont have to worry about later.

You have already taken the mark if you cant give up your comefortable lifestyle to live like Jesus.

Most Christians today have done none of the things Jesus instructs his disciples. They dont even know what discipleship is

The only way I see to return to our first work in Christ is to make our home a church and set the standerd where we live.

For me that standard was set by Jesus Christ and his disciples in the Book of Acts, Then by the Waldensians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldensians

Then by the Swiss Brethren

The first Anabaptist congregation was organized by Conrad Grebel, George Blaurock & Felix Manz in Zollikon, Switzerland in 1525. This congregation began calling themselves "Brothers in Christ". They were truly brothers in Christ according to their first "Church Order", written in 1527, and called the Swiss Order or The Congregational Order: "Of all the brothers and sisters in this congregation none shall have anything of his own, but rather, as the Christians in the time of the apostles held all in common, and especially stored up in a common fund, from which aid can be given to the poor, according as each will have need, and as in apostles' time permit no brother to be in need." (translated by John H. Yoder)

and Hutterites
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http://www.hutterites.org/

And in my own life, The California, Jesus People.

The Jesus movement was restorationist in theology, seeking to return to the original life of the early Christians. As a result, Jesus people often viewed mainline denominations, especially those in the United States, as apostate, and took a decidedly anti-American political stance in general. The theology of the Jesus movement also called for a return to asceticism. Also, the Jesus people had a strong belief in miracles, signs and wonders, faith healing, spiritual possession and exorcism. The movement tended towards strong evangelism and millennialism. The group's theology rejected the excluded middle. What they lacked in theological depth, Jesus people made up for in zeal for Christ and love of others. They strived for social justice and seemed to simply be in love with Jesus.

Perhaps the most illustrative aspect of the Jesus movement was its communal aspect. Most Jesus freaks lived in communes.
Within the commune, the group became more important than the individual, and communal sharing of possessions was the norm. Some of these communes became highly authoritarian..

I was and am part of that awakening and our main weakness was we had no true elders. Thirty years later many of us are grand parents and still building churches with ALL THINGS COMMON.


Would you care to make a documentry of Christians living this way today who are not taking the mark of the beast?

You are invited to the 40 acres, I am caretaking in Sullivan County, New York, for a major network TV writer and producer,

With love in Christ
brother daniel
 
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My fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. Grace to you all.

Just a very quick post as I am extremely disturbed about the news this afternoon of terrorists beheading a young Christian female in India. They released a threat via internet and video tape that they are looking for 100 more Christian females to behead.

I've also read for plans on a website to attack Christians in the US by beheading. When looking at our borders, it's possible that Michigan would be the easiest place of entry. Mexico may be easy as well, but terrorists would not be welcomed (To my personal knowledge) due to the fact that Mexico depends on our economy. Canada, on the otherhand, does not like the US very much. Again, I'm only offering my opinion and I could be very wrong. But my inner being is telling me they'll come in through Michigan and begin kidnapping young Christian children.

Primary places of targets would most likely be shopping malls, theaters, drive through resturaunts, and allies or parking lots during the night where most of our wild teens are hanging out at. Method of attack will probably be drive by kidnapping and after a time of torture, the beheading.

Keep in mind we're talking about a people that do not care about getting caught because they don't value life as we do. At least, they want to be able to carry out a mission before getting caught.

Parents, please talk to your children about the importance of being near groups. They're after young Christian girls. I'd also warn them about the dangers of walking late at night to visit a friend. That's just asking for trouble. I know they won't listen, but we all love our children very much and want to keep them safe. At least make them aware of the threat which is growing more everyday.

God bless and pray for us all.
 
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Now is the acceptable hour of salvation.

If you die to yourself now , you wont have to worry about later.

You have already taken the mark if you cant give up your comefortable lifestyle to live like Jesus.

Most Christians today have done none of the things Jesus instructs his disciples. They dont even know what discipleship is

The only way I see to return to our first work in Christ is to make our home a church and set the standerd where we live.

For me that standard was set by Jesus Christ and his disciples in the Book of Acts, Then by the Waldensians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldensians

Then by the Swiss Brethren

The first Anabaptist congregation was organized by Conrad Grebel, George Blaurock & Felix Manz in Zollikon, Switzerland in 1525. This congregation began calling themselves "Brothers in Christ". They were truly brothers in Christ according to their first "Church Order", written in 1527, and called the Swiss Order or The Congregational Order: "Of all the brothers and sisters in this congregation none shall have anything of his own, but rather, as the Christians in the time of the apostles held all in common, and especially stored up in a common fund, from which aid can be given to the poor, according as each will have need, and as in apostles' time permit no brother to be in need." (translated by John H. Yoder)

and Hutterites
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http://www.hutterites.org/

And in my own life, The California, Jesus People.

The Jesus movement was restorationist in theology, seeking to return to the original life of the early Christians. As a result, Jesus people often viewed mainline denominations, especially those in the United States, as apostate, and took a decidedly anti-American political stance in general. The theology of the Jesus movement also called for a return to asceticism. Also, the Jesus people had a strong belief in miracles, signs and wonders, faith healing, spiritual possession and exorcism. The movement tended towards strong evangelism and millennialism. The group's theology rejected the excluded middle. What they lacked in theological depth, Jesus people made up for in zeal for Christ and love of others. They strived for social justice and seemed to simply be in love with Jesus.

Perhaps the most illustrative aspect of the Jesus movement was its communal aspect. Most Jesus freaks lived in communes.
Within the commune, the group became more important than the individual, and communal sharing of possessions was the norm. Some of these communes became highly authoritarian..

I was and am part of that awakening and our main weakness was we had no true elders. Thirty years later many of us are grand parents and still building churches with ALL THINGS COMMON.


Would you care to make a documentry of Christians living this way today who are not taking the mark of the beast?

You are invited to the 40 acres, I am caretaking in Sullivan County, New York, for a major network TV writer and producer,

With love in Christ
brother daniel

With terrorist beheading Christians, many people will want a higher leval security blanket because they are afraid, so here comes the chip.

With love in Christ
brother daniel
 
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Why does Islam behead its' victims?

Is there a certain religious shame associated with this or the fear & panic the victims feel that cause them some kind of twisted glee? I've never understood this violence...& I've never understood why the Bible was clear about beheadings as the choice of punishment. But it does appear to be all coming more clear doesn't it.

One can almost see what Jesus experienced when the ungodly mass of people turned on Him in a heartbeat:( That scene will probably play over & over & over again in the last few minutes of eartly time.
God give us the grace is all I can say.
 
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