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Malaysian Flight 370

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This isn't a religious thread, at least, not that we know of, but it is a current events thread. It is amazing that this plane could be lost for as many days as it has been missing.
If you would like to express your opinions on the matter, please do. Your guess is as good as anyone else's.
 

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This isn't a religious thread, at least, not that we know of, but it is a current events thread. It is amazing that this plane could be lost for as many days as it has been missing.
If you would like to express your opinions on the matter, please do. Your guess is as good as anyone else's.

I think we are being fooled. The U.S. has known all along where this plane is. I don't believe that ALL communication was shut off because according to what I've been reading, it's impossible to shut off all communication to a 777. Rolls Royce has been silent about this but also I've read that the moment the engines either shut down or are shut off, they can tell exactly where the plane is. I don't know the purpose of either stealing the plane or crashing it, but I believe that the announcement from Maylaysia prematurely is to get the families to calm down and accept the inevitable because wherever it is, the passengers are dead. The only way I can believe that it crashed into the ocean is if there was decompression and the pilots were overcome and the plane flew until it ran out of fuel. Or, as it was reported somewhere online, it may have been shot down. I believe it was criminal. And I'm not accusing the pilots. Two Iranian people had stolen passports and a man called, "Mr. Ali" bought their one-way tickets with cash. And I doubt we will ever be told the truth about it, especially if it is in Iran or Pakistan. I believe that TWA flt. 800 was hit by a missile but it took them a couple of years to make up the story of the oxygen canisters exploding. Just like the families of the passengers have been lied to, the U.S. will make up a story for us.
 
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822. Malaysia airliner missing was created by the Feds (3/20/2014)

It was done to justify the coming airplane’s incident.

In my story, to frame me in fake money case, the Feds have to eliminate my relatives – they are all witnesses. In recent three years, each time the Feds planned a case, they arranged a cruise tour trip for my relatives. See “811. Cruise – a murder trap (1/18/2014)”. In that article, I revealed that each time for a trip, the Feds used to create an incident in advance – either an “engine room fire” in a cruise or a “boat sinking” or “food poisoning” to cover up the coming case as a common one – not particularly ralated to any individual person. So was this Malaysia Airliner’s accident.

Malaysia Airline MH370 disappeared on March 8. I think it was used to justify the coming airplane accident in later March. My wife said she was going to Philippine via Shanghai at the end of this month. This means the Feds has plotted a case in late March and arrange her a South East Asia air trip. My other relatives could be arranged in trip too at that time. Since they are all recruited by the Feds, they’ll have to follow the order of the Feds when it suddenly gives one.

That was why Malaysia airline was chosen. 1. Most victims are Chinese ethnic like my wife’s (or my rlatives’) 2. It was South East airline where my wife will fly.

I predict the missing plane crashed somewhere far away in deep south India ocean. The purpose is to eliminate any possible trace of a plot. That’s why MH370 changed its way dramatically to the west and tried to avoid any detection from the ground. Watch the map.
In turning point, north is Vietnam; east is Philippine; South is Malaysia and Indonesia. To west is the shortest way to Indian Ocean.

Forget those hijacker or suicide news. They are used to distract your views and to delay the searches. No hijackers or suicides have such intention to play hide and seek game at this time.

How could they do this? I allege it was the same way they did in 911 attack. Everyone knows the drone is very popular today. It’s a skilled technique to pilot a plane with set up computer data. (or even by remote control) With pre-set computer data, at the turning point, the auto pilot system took over the control of the plane. The pilot can do nothing with it even if they were alive at the time.

To drop an airplane is a rare event. This may indict the Feds has made a big plot in late March. Watch with your eyes with my story in your mind. Tomorrow is Friday, the day the Feds like to act. Because there are two extra days (week ends) for them to carry murder in jail.
 
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They've found fragments that they believe to be part of the 'plane.

Are you talking about the pictures of debris from the satellites from Australia, China and France? Or did they actually find and retrieve fragments ? I thought the satellite pictures from China from two weeks ago looked more like the plane than the satellite pictures Australia has released.
 
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Are you talking about the pictures of debris from the satellites from Australia, China and France? Or did they actually find and retrieve fragments ? I thought the satellite pictures from China from two weeks ago looked more like the plane than the satellite pictures Australia has released.

The debris found by the Australians.
 
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The debris found by the Australians.

But they haven't picked up any debris. And the families of the passengers are accusing Malaysian authorities of lying to them. This whole thing sounds fishy and I'm not sure many people will accept anything they say. Until they pull out of the ocean parts of the plane, I sure won't believe them.

I'm hearing that there were questionable batteries on board and earlier Malaysian authorities denied that.

Someone with a cell phone with pre-paid minutes called the pilot two minutes before takeoff. False ID was used to purchase the phone. The call was made by a woman. Along with two passengers using stolen passports purchased with cash by a "Mr. Ali". Why wasn't that information released two weeks ago? The Malaysians are either incompetent or dishonest.
 
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But they haven't picked up any debris.

No - debris has been sighted at sea, but none (to the best of my knowledge) has been actually retrieved. Could be wrong about that.

And the families of the passengers are accusing Malaysian authorities of lying to them.

Lying about what, though? Plane disappears, search is conducted, some debris is found but not the whole plane, eventually it is - reluctantly - concluded that the plane has almost certainly crashed at sea with the loss of all lives onboard. Sure, there's some confusion about what exactly happened during the plane's last few hours, not helped by the lack of communication from the plane, but how has anyone lied to anyone?

This whole thing sounds fishy and I'm not sure many people will accept anything they say.

Don't see why not.

Until they pull out of the ocean parts of the plane, I sure won't believe them.

You may have a very long wait. Nobody knows precisely where the plane went down. Even if that could be determined, its eventual position (if it's in one piece) could be some distance from there. And it's probably in the Indian Ocean, which (checking Wiki) has an average depth of over 12,000 feet, and reaches 26,000 feet at its deepest. To put that into perspective, the Titanic was nearly 900 feet long (over three times as long as the Boeing 777), was found in two pieces at a depth of over 12,000 feet, and took 74 years to be found. It could be a long time, if at all, before anyone sees flight MH370 again.

I'm hearing that there were questionable batteries on board and earlier Malaysian authorities denied that.

Someone with a cell phone with pre-paid minutes called the pilot two minutes before takeoff. False ID was used to purchase the phone. The call was made by a woman. Along with two passengers using stolen passports purchased with cash by a "Mr. Ali". Why wasn't that information released two weeks ago?

Where are you getting this information from, and is it in any way reliable? (Or, in the case of the phone call and the stolen passports, relevant?)

The Malaysians are either incompetent or dishonest.

Not really very nice of you to say that, is it?
 
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I hate my computer! I'm always deleting my posts by accident. David Brider, I'll go back and read your post and try to answer again.

None of the information is reliable if it comes from the Malaysian gov't or the Malaysian Airlines. They wasted a lot of time in the beginning, telling the search teams to look off the east coast of Malaysia, then they said the plane turned around so look on the west coast. Boeing said the plane flew for 4-7 hrs. after the change of direction. Then it was told that the flight plan had been changed by someone on the cockpit computer. The transponder was shut off after the co-pilot said, "Alright. Good night." There were two young men from Iran with the stolen passports purchased with cash by a "Mr. Ali". The mother of one called from Germany as she was supposed to meet him when he flew to Germany. I don't know if she is the one who said they were coming to Europe to find jobs or if they got that information some other way.

I've been getting my news from Fox News and I'm now boycotting Bill O'Reilly until he stops bragging about how he said from the beginning that it was a pilot suicide and the plane was in the ocean. He says he came to that conclusion by studying the "facts". But I do watch Megyn Kelly, an anchor who's show is at 8pm central time. She questions some of the so-called "facts", like, if they turned off the transponder and planned to crash the plane, why did they fly for another 4-7 hrs.? Or if there was a decompression of the plane and they were overcome quickly, it doesn't explain why they turned off the transponder. Were they just unlucky that as they were stealing a plane there was a leak in the cabin or cockpit and they were killed quickly? In that case they would fly until they ran out of fuel and the Indian Ocean theory would fit. But a retired General who is closely related to Intelligence in the U.S. stated several times that he was told the plane is in Pakistan and may be in Iran by now. He has stuck by his story even after the announcement that the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean. I've read that a crash in an ocean would leave a lot of debris that would be easy to see. There are a lot of conspiracy theories because the crash doesn't make sense. And they made this announcement without any evidence other than a satellite picture. That's why the people are so upset. They were told almost nothing for two weeks and then they are not only told, but some of the family members received text messages telling them the plane crashed and their loved ones had not survived, "somewhere" in the south Indian Ocean.

Also, interestingly, Israel is still on alert due to the plane disappearance. Also, Israel has closed it's embassies, all of them supposedly because of a personnel "strike". Seriously? It was necessary to close them all down? I haven't heard that on the news at all. That sounds like a bit of an over reaction. Israel has the best intelligence, IMO. Is it because of the plane or is there some other reason which has not been reported?

It might not sound nice for me to say that Malaysian authorities and the airlines are either incometent or dishonest but if the shoe fits... They don't have the technical capapability to handle this situation and for the familes' sake, they should have given the investigation over to someone who does, but their pride was too important I guess. I don't know why I said "dishonest" but the thought has occurred to me that both were in cahoots with whoever planned whatever happened. Do you see how little information there is even now more than two weeks afterward? Maybe they never thought the world would have so much interest. I'm not saying I'd expect them to find the plane in a day or two, but the fact that they lacked compassion for the family members also makes me suspicious. Their lack of information has driven the family members nuts, to the point of screaming and yelling and crying. One woman had to be carried out of the room so she wouldn't be on camera. Then all of a sudden they report the fate of the plane as if they know anything more than some objects were seen by satellite. That is ludicrous, IMO.
 
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I don't have time right now to go through everything you posted (it's the middle of the night here, I'm having one of my insomniac moments & heading back to sleep shortly), but a few things stood out...

She questions some of the so-called "facts", like, if they turned off the transponder and planned to crash the plane, why did they fly for another 4-7 hrs.?

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I don't know why I said "dishonest" but the thought has occurred to me that both were in cahoots with whoever planned whatever happened.

What makes you think anything was planned? Accidents happen.

Also...

Do you see how little information there is even now more than two weeks afterward?

Yes. And?

Then all of a sudden they report the fate of the plane as if they know anything more than some objects were seen by satellite. That is ludicrous, IMO.

It didn't happen "all of a sudden". It happened after an exhaustive search of a large section of the Indian Ocean where it's believed the 'plane was likely to have gone down. The eventual announcement of the 'plane's presumed fate was over a couple of weeks after it had disappeared.
 
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I don't have time right now to go through everything you posted (it's the middle of the night here, I'm having one of my insomniac moments & heading back to sleep shortly), but a few things stood out...



What makes you think anything was planned? Accidents happen.

Also...



Yes. And?



It didn't happen "all of a sudden". It happened after an exhaustive search of a large section of the Indian Ocean where it's believed the 'plane was likely to have gone down. The eventual announcement of the 'plane's presumed fate was over a couple of weeks after it had disappeared.


You know, sometimes I wonder if it is because you are a man that you just take information at face value and never bother to question anything. The pieces don't fit. As was questioned before, if it was a suicide mission and the suicidal person turned off the transponder, why fly for 4-7 more hours? Was it to make the passengers suffer mortal fear for that long?

How could the transponder be turned off in some criminal act and then all of a sudden there was a crack in the plane causing decompression?

Why has the media suddenly forgotten the concern about the erratic flight pattern when the plane went up to 45,000 ft and then back down to a lower altitude?

Why were they so quick to believe Pakistan that no planes were seen in their radar? They "supposedly" harbored Osama Bin Laden and the doctor who reported his whereabouts is still in jail. They are not friends, IMO.

I have a million other questions but it doesn't matter. When TWA flt 800 went down near Long Island, NY, there were witnesses who saw a missile hit the plane and an investigation went on for a couple of years and they re-constructed the plane with all of the fragments found and the official report was that some oxygen tanks or something exploded, causing the crash. We never get the truth and we won't with this plane. I don't know why I bother to watch and read about it. We are lied to more than we are told the truth. It's all about control.

The planning was just a thought I had in mind because you never know what was actually in the cargo hold. If the plane is in a Muslim country, Malaysia is a Muslim country so there could be smuggling of some substance, etc. It was just a thought and I hope for the passenger's sake that they would never end up in the hands of a closed Muslim country.
 
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As was questioned before, if it was a suicide mission and the suicidal person turned off the transponder, why fly for 4-7 more hours?

Do you actually think it was a suicide mission?
 
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Do you actually think it was a suicide mission?

Absolutely not! That is what everyone is saying on the news now, but I don't trust the mainstream media. The gov't controls them and well, I guess that would explain their sudden amnesia about the fact there were two on board from Iran who used stolen passports. I'm posting a link to what I saw tonight and the former General being talked about is going to be on Fox tonight. This man has never wavered in his statement about where the plane is.

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I believe that the passengers are probably no longer with us. Either the ascent up to 45,000 ft. killed them before they were able to get their oxygen masks on (or they could have run out of oxygen) or whatever country stole the plane would probably kill them rather than provide food and shelter to so many people.

Also, concerning pilot suicide, the two didn't request to fly together. I doubt if one planned a suicide, he'd be able to talk the other into it. He would have had to lock the other pilot out of the cockpit or overcome him physically, maybe even kill him.
 
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