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Such a rapid decay could not have been going on continuously for millions of years, because the field would have to have been impossibly strong in the past in order for it to still exist today.
Just the creationist. They warp data to fit theory. You can't do that in science. Instead, theory must change to fit data. But in creationism, the theory is tied to the existence of God, and changes in the theory are viewed as saying that God does not exist.Defens0rFidei said:Both, perhaps. But at least one is being honest about its preconceptions.
Actually there were 3 Macross series which were combined into the single robotech series.RVincent said:He's from a series called Robotech that came out in the 80's. Though technically, the original series was called Macros.
TrueCreation said:The old argument on the decaying magnetic field is bogus. Of course the geomagnetic record as an independent consideration is not very unsupportive of a runaway subduction episode anyways.
Cheers,
-Chris Grose
--That a current rate of decay of the magnetic field can be used as if it were a constant and extrapolate backwards until the values become ridiculous. A basic understanding of how the geodynamo functions as a function of time and knowledge of paleomagnetism or geomagnetism proves that this argument is bogus.Larry said:What is the 'old argument'?
Runaway subduction has other falsifications.TrueCreation said:The old argument on the decaying magnetic field is bogus. Of course the geomagnetic record as an independent consideration is not very unsupportive of a runaway subduction episode anyways.
Cheers,
-Chris Grose
--Potential falsifications, certainly.lucaspa said:Runaway subduction has other falsifications.
--What I implied is that the geomagnetic record, considered independently (eg. from radioisotopic dating) does not appear to be inconsistent with what would be expected from an episode of CPT. Albeit, in the long run the GPTS (geomagnetic polarity time-scale) may offer considerable potential falsification to CPT and runaway subduction--as well as the potential to give considerable favour to CPT. However, little is known about the geodynamo and how it functions and evolves over time, including utter ignorance on how/why geomagnetic reversals occur in the first place.BTW, that "not very unsupportive" is a weird phrasing. It would seem that you are saying that the geomagnetic record does falsify runaway subduction but you don't think it's an absolute falsification.
TrueCreation--What I implied is that the geomagnetic record said:Rrunaway subduction would produce all those bands containing the geomagnetic record within a very short time frame -- the year of the Flood according to the proponents of the theory. Therefore, if runaway subduction is true, there should be no geomagnetic record. Thus, the presence of a geomagnetic record showing reversals of earth's magnetic field is not a potential, but actual, falsification of runaway subduction.
--No. I think you are using the potentially very flawed assumption that geomagnetic reversals would continue to be slow as observed to day and inferred from the geomagnetic record with the backprint of radioisotopic dates. Of course, as I said, the GPTS isn't going to falsify CPT if it is dependent on other phenomena such as radioisotopic dates. Why would you think that with what runaway subduction implies for the catastrophic overturning of the mantle and redistribution of heat and mass (most especially across the CMB!) that the geodynamo would be uneffected? To me, such is ridiculous.Rrunaway subduction would produce all those bands containing the geomagnetic record within a very fshort time rame -- the year of the Flood according to the proponents of the theory. Therefore, if runaway subduction is true, there should be no geomagnetic record. Thus, the presence of a geomagnetic record showing reversals of earth's magnetic field is not a potential, but actual, falsification of runaway subduction.
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