Madagascar and Australia, a question for creationists.

JD16 · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET said:
QV please:

SOURCE

Nazi eugenics - Wikipedia

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Eugenics - Wikipedia
"A major criticism of eugenics policies is that, regardless of whether "negative" or "positive" policies are used, they are susceptible to abuse because the criteria of selection are determined by whichever group is in political power at the time"

Which I just realize is exactly the same source that you posted lolz

USincognito · Mar 22, 2017

JD16 said:
Nazi eugenics - Wikipedia

Edited to add more info

Eugenics - Wikipedia
"A major criticism of eugenics policies is that, regardless of whether "negative" or "positive" policies are used, they are susceptible to abuse because the criteria of selection are determined by whichever group is in political power at the time"

Which I just realize is exactly the same source that you posted lolz

Ignore the red herrings. Some around here can't discuss the topic so they constantly try and change the subject. Best to just ignore them.

AV1611VET · Mar 22, 2017

USincognito said:
Ignore the red herrings.

Zactly.

Concern yourself more with the red heifer, whose blood foreshadowed the precious blood of Jesus Christ forgiving our sins.

HitchSlap · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Zactly.

Concern yourself more with the red heifer, whose blood foreshadowed the precious blood of Jesus Christ forgiving our sins.

If human sacrifice is somehow necessary for redemption, then the Aztec's have you beat by quite a bit.

Armoured · Mar 22, 2017

xianghua said:
yep. but dont blame me. here is the paper:

Sea Anemone Genome Reveals Ancestral Eumetazoan Gene Repertoire and Genomic Organization (PDF Download Available)

and again we see why evolution doesnt have any prediction.

You need to read the article more closely. It's about an ancestral gene, not a gene arising twice independently. But by all means, keep trying.

Armoured · Mar 22, 2017

JD16 said:
Eugenics is a social philosophy that abuses science for a racist purpose

A major criticism of eugenics policies is that, regardless of whether "negative" or "positive" policies are used, they are susceptible to abuse because the criteria of selection are determined by whichever group is in political power at the time.

All science is susceptible to abuse. That isn't an argument against the science, it's an argument against the people who misuse it.

Full disclosure, I believe eugenics will become necessary at some point to maintain a viable humanity.

The Stamp · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Concern yourself more with the red heifer, whose blood foreshadowed the precious blood of Jesus Christ forgiving our sins.

What are these 'sins' that you speak of and how did someone else dying pay for your 'sins'? if I owe you $10 dollars and my friend forgives me that debt do I still need to pay you the $10?

pitabread · Mar 22, 2017

Armoured said:
Oh an anti-vaxer as well.

I guess if one is going to be anti-science, might as well go all in.

JD16 · Mar 22, 2017

pitabread said:
I guess if one is going to be anti-science, might as well go all in.

But you can bet your bottom dollar that no one would deny gravity by stepping off the Empire State Building lolzz

JD16 · Mar 22, 2017

HitchSlap said:
What convinced you that a god exists?

Colter · Mar 22, 2017

The Stamp said:
Ask your pastors this question, Why do animals and plants living on these island not exist anywhere else on earth?
Could it be because they were isolated from the rest of the world and evolved?

Yes, after the breakup of Pangea evolution continued on different continents. The oldest human remains found in Australia to date is the Mungo River find which dates to 40-68,000 years. Interestingly that find is chalanging the "out of Africa" theory.

AV1611VET · Mar 22, 2017

HitchSlap said:
If human sacrifice is somehow necessary for redemption, then the Aztec's have you beat by quite a bit.

Matthew 27:40b If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

Mark 2:7b who can forgive sins but God only?

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

AV1611VET · Mar 22, 2017

The Stamp said:
What are these 'sins' that you speak of and how did someone else dying pay for your 'sins'? if I owe you $10 dollars and my friend forgives me that debt do I still need to pay you the $10?

You're talking about universalism.

xianghua · Mar 22, 2017

Armoured said:
You need to read the article more closely. It's about an ancestral gene, not a gene arising twice independently. But by all means, keep trying.

actually you are wrong. this paper show that if we will find the same genes in far species but not in some of the species between them- evolution will not falsified. and this is the reason why evolution isnt science.

Colter · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET · Mar 22, 2017

Colter said:
* kangaroo poster *

Steve Miller needs to read Acts 8, doesn't he?

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

If God can do that with a human, He can do that with a kangaroo.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

JD16 · Mar 22, 2017

Colter said:
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Going back is one thing, the bigger puzzle would be,....how did each pair of animals knew that a flood was coming? And how did they know that there was an Ark thousands of miles away waiting for their arrival? How was each lucky pair selected? Lucky draw?

If the answer is Goddidit,...wouldn't it be easier to construct a much smaller Ark just enough for Noah and his family, then after the flood, Goddidit again to create the whole animal kingdom from scratch like when he did it the first time?

Or even better, just snap his fingers and every living being disappear except Noah and his family? It took about 100 years to construct the Ark, 40 days and night raining, total time spent on board the Ark was about a year or so, not to mention the mind boggling logistics involved .....and everything could have been accomplished with a single command from God.....

But nah, we want Ark we want Ark we want Ark,....

Colter · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Steve Miller needs to read Acts 8, doesn't he?

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

If God can do that with a human, He can do that with a kangaroo.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Claiming divine intervention when facts don't back up the exaggerated claims of the authors of the scriptures can do a lot as well. It's like Oxiclean.

AV1611VET · Mar 22, 2017

Colter said:
Claiming divine intervention when facts don't back up the exaggerated claims of the authors of the scriptures can do a lot as well. It's like Oxiclean.

Which claim is easier to accept?

Miller's or mine?

The Stamp · Mar 22, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Matthew 27:40b If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

Mark 2:7b who can forgive sins but God only?

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

That's it, if you can't answer the questions throw verses at them.

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