Lukewarm Christians - what happens to them?

[sk8brdkd]

I was just wondering, according to the bible or to your knowledge, what happens to christians who are lukewarm or how does the bible define lukewarm christians??

I've been hearing a lot lately on end times and i've been thinking a lot about my older sister. I know when she was younger (or, i believe), that she was a christian when she was younger but there's no way for me to kno that for sure but for the last 13 or 14 yrs at least if not longer, she doesn't care about God or anything (which is how i used to be) - she actully hates that my parents forced both of us to attend christian schools from k-12 and she resents them for it. I don't know what i'm getting at but what will happen to her if she dies young or if christ comes back??

She knows how I feel, yet, when i had been thinking about this sub on lukewarm christians - i kinda almost feel like thats the boat i'm in thats why i'm wondering about this subject.

I don't know if i'd consider myself lukewarm although, i have not been to church for quite awhile which i've shared on here awhile ago, i rarely to never read the bible but, throughtout my days i do try to pray often when possible and when i'm at work, God is usually on my mind so what does that make me? yet, i don't always choose to go his way but the wrong ways.

I know the bible states that God will spit out lukewarm christians but, what does that REALLY mean? because i've been told and read that once your a christian, no matter if u stay w/ God, or fall away, the holy spirit is always inside of you and will never leave you so in fact, those that fall away will get into heaven by the skin of their teeth but, i'm not sayin i want to fall away - just thinking about my sister and all the poor choices she's made over the years (mainly w/ guys) and other sexual sins - I kno i'm not perfect - i've committed a lot of sin (sexually but not w/ another person, in person if u kno what i mean?).

 

[brinny]

I was just wondering, according to the bible or to your knowledge, what happens to christians who are lukewarm or how does the bible define lukewarm christians??

I've been hearing a lot lately on end times and i've been thinking a lot about my older sister. I know when she was younger (or, i believe), that she was a christian when she was younger but there's no way for me to kno that for sure but for the last 13 or 14 yrs at least if not longer, she doesn't care about God or anything (which is how i used to be) - she actully hates that my parents forced both of us to attend christian schools from k-12 and she resents them for it. I don't know what i'm getting at but what will happen to her if she dies young or if christ comes back??

She knows how I feel, yet, when i had been thinking about this sub on lukewarm christians - i kinda almost feel like thats the boat i'm in thats why i'm wondering about this subject.

I don't know if i'd consider myself lukewarm although, i have not been to church for quite awhile which i've shared on here awhile ago, i rarely to never read the bible but, throughtout my days i do try to pray often when possible and when i'm at work, God is usually on my mind so what does that make me? yet, i don't always choose to go his way but the wrong ways.

I know the bible states that God will spit out lukewarm christians but, what does that REALLY mean? because i've been told and read that once your a christian, no matter if u stay w/ God, or fall away, the holy spirit is always inside of you and will never leave you so in fact, those that fall away will get into heaven by the skin of their teeth but, i'm not sayin i want to fall away - just thinking about my sister and all the poor choices she's made over the years (mainly w/ guys) and other sexual sins - I kno i'm not perfect - i've committed a lot of sin (sexually but not w/ another person, in person if u kno what i mean?).

"So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth." ~Revelation 3:1

This indicates someone who swats away God and His grace as if it were a fly, even if they call themselves a Christian. The "lukewarm-ness " speaks of love in their heart for God. It also speaks of those who just want a "free ticket" to heaven, and don't wanna go there because of their love for God, but because they don't wanna be "singe-ed" by the hellfire. They could care less about God, do not long to see His face, and find Him a bother.

This literally makes God "sick".

 

[sk8brdkd]

ok - i know that verse - but, what does it REALLY mean since i kno once ur saved - ur saved - nothing changes that

 

[brinny]

ok - i know that verse - but, what does it REALLY mean since i kno once ur saved - ur saved - nothing changes that

perhaps this will help:

YouTube - Revival Hymn

 

[brinny]

if God spews one out of His mouth, do you honestly believe that one will be in HIs presence, and away from His wrath?

 

[brinny]

an unhappy God?

this verse speaks for itself:

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." ~Hebrews 10:3

Focus on the Word of God.

 

[heron]

Think back to New Testament times. There were Pharisees who strutted around intimidating people with their religiosity... people who dabbled in all sorts of philosophies...followers of Jesus who would give up their lives for Him... Jews who wanted a Messiah but weren't sure that Jesus was the One they expected.

It's not much different than people today. But think of how someone bragging to be a follower off and on can ruin the faith for others. It is irritating to have people oppress and then boast.

God knows what your sister went through, and He saw things that you and your parents might never know about. Christian school is not flawless, and not right for everyone; friends at Christian schools are not always loving and kind.

God is always willing to work with our pasts. Keep praying for her. God can heal and show her reasons for believing.

 

[Sketcher]

In context, that is a rebuke to a proud church. They thought they were in good shape, but the truth is, they weren't.

Now, this is just my opinion, but it does correspond to God's promise that he will stay faithful, though we are unfaithful: What do I do when I'm warming up some food, and I find it only to be lukewarm? Yes, I spit that out of my mouth, but I put it back on my plate, stir it up, and give it another minute or two in the microwave. What does the Lord say in John 15:2? "He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful." If we're in him, he's going to work with us to get us to where he wants us.

As for your sister, she needs to repent. She still can, and consider Peter. He denied the Lord three times. But he repented when Jesus called him back. In the end, he was saved. Where he was at between his denials and his return is inconsequential. So may it be with your sister.

 

[Chris_G]

"So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth." ~Revelation 3:1

This indicates someone who swats away God and His grace as if it were a fly, even if they call themselves a Christian. The "lukewarm-ness " speaks of love in their heart for God. It also speaks of those who just want a "free ticket" to heaven, and don't wanna go there because of their love for God, but because they don't wanna be "singe-ed" by the hellfire. They could care less about God, do not long to see His face, and find Him a bother.

This literally makes God "sick".

Jesus talked more about Hell than he did about Heaven. Why? Because God doesn't want anyone to go there. That's why Jesus died and paid for our sins, and took our punishment. If we had to pay for our sins and get what we deserved, everyone, everyone, would go to hell, including you and me. So the next time you criticize someone who accepted Christ because of there fear of God's eternal punishment, think about what you were saved from. You we're saved from the fires of hell as well. Don't forget to thank Jesus for that too. For some people, like me, God has to scare them into heaven, I thank God Almight for that and love Him for that! Think of all those in hell right now who didn't get saved, wanting to give anything to be where you and I are right now. Salvation is by God's grace alone, it is His work, not yours or mine, He grants faith to save us, without Him, we'd all be damned to Hell. Anyone who thinks they can lose their salvation, is counting on their own self-righteousness and own strength and efforts. No one, absolutely no one in heaven will boast about how they got there. It's all God's work. He saves us, and He keeps us saved. His Holy Spirit seals us for all eternity.

 

[RobertZ]

Jesus talked more about Hell than he did about Heaven. Why? Because God doesn't want anyone to go there. That's why Jesus died and paid for our sins, and took our punishment. If we had to pay for our sins and get what we deserved, everyone, everyone, would go to hell, including you and me. So the next time you criticize someone who accepted Christ because of there fear of God's eternal punishment, think about what you were saved from. You we're saved from the fires of hell as well. Don't forget to thank Jesus for that too. For some people, like me, God has to scare them into heaven, I thank God Almight for that and love Him for that! Think of all those in hell right now who didn't get saved, wanting to give anything to be where you and I are right now. Salvation is by God's grace alone, it is His work, not yours or mine, He grants faith to save us, without Him, we'd all be damned to Hell. Anyone who thinks they can lose their salvation, is counting on their own self-righteousness and own strength and efforts. No one, absolutely no one in heaven will boast about how they got there. It's all God's work. He saves us, and He keeps us saved. His Holy Spirit seals us for all eternity.

Wow! Amen and Amen!

 

[Lucis]

It's better to be cold then lukewarm Jesus said. I don't think he means those that read their bible too little or pray too little when he talks about lukewarm, but those that call themselves Christians and really don't care about or know about Jesus. Pharisees. Followers of the law not of the Spirit. I often think I'm lukewarm, cause I don't feel any joy about my faith like I did in the start. I'm afraid that my heart will become hardened and that I will lose the faith without noticing or caring. The bible tells us to test ourselves, if we are in the faith or not. So to check if we are following the right path is only good I think.

 

[sk8brdkd]

It's better to be cold then lukewarm Jesus said. I don't think he means those that read their bible too little or pray too little when he talks about lukewarm, but those that call themselves Christians and really don't care about or know about Jesus. Pharisees. Followers of the law not of the Spirit. I often think I'm lukewarm, cause I don't feel any joy about my faith like I did in the start. I'm afraid that my heart will become hardened and that I will lose the faith without noticing or caring. The bible tells us to test ourselves, if we are in the faith or not. So to check if we are following the right path is only good I think.

thanks for your answer lucis - it feels a little better to know there r others out there that "think" they are lukewarm christians but, in reality, are not as we are still seeking and wanting God more. But, i totally agree w/ u - about how i don't feel all excited or anything like i did in the beginning when i first became a christian 8 yrs ago - all that excitement and everything seems like it just died n faded away - i guess thats why sometimes i question my faith/walk - and why i "think" that God would consider me a lukewarm christian bc i'm not doin what i had been doing the first 3 or 4 yrs meaning not praying as often, rarely/almost never reading my bible and just choosing stuff now that i didn't choose back then - i wish i knew how to get that "revival" feeling back in my life like i did when i was in college a few yrs back - that was when i grew the most and now since i graduated almost 3 yrs ago, it just feels like everything has stopped or almost stopped that is.

 

[brinny]

It's better to be cold then lukewarm Jesus said. I don't think he means those that read their bible too little or pray too little when he talks about lukewarm, but those that call themselves Christians and really don't care about or know about Jesus. Pharisees. Followers of the law not of the Spirit. I often think I'm lukewarm, cause I don't feel any joy about my faith like I did in the start. I'm afraid that my heart will become hardened and that I will lose the faith without noticing or caring. The bible tells us to test ourselves, if we are in the faith or not. So to check if we are following the right path is only good I think.

amen.

 

[brinny]

you have a misconception of what salvation entails.. do you actually believe that just uttering the word, "Jesus died for my sins" is it.. lots of folks say those words and aren't saved.. you can tell by the way that they live there lives.. they don't live life unto the Lord.. they live unto themselves.. it says in scripture to confess with a contrite heart, and believe unto salvation.. if you have been living unto yourself. well then you clearly aren't saved.. so i suggest that you look deep inside yourself, and ask the question that we all inevitably do at some point.. are you prepared to die unto yourself and start living to serve in God's army.. there is no luke warm.. you either are saved or you aren't and will be cut off and cast into the lake of fire.. some will even say, "but Lord did i prophesied in your name, and cast out demons.. He said, "get away from me. i don't know you"... so you see, lots of folks have been deceived.. they thought that they too, could say they were saved. but they never actually believed in the first place. if they did, it would have been evident in their change.. there are lots of preachers that say you only need to utter the words. but that's not true.. they are not being truthful with themselves. so how can anyone expect them to be truthful with others.. God's love.. ps< utter the words once you have decided in your heart that you are a sinner.. when your ready to take up your cross and follow Him.. when you truly are saved. you won't have any doubts about it.. you'll know.. you will have a relationship with Him that is suited to both of your desires and needs..

amen.

 

[brinny]

thanks for your answer lucis - it feels a little better to know there r others out there that "think" they are lukewarm christians but, in reality, are not as we are still seeking and wanting God more. But, i totally agree w/ u - about how i don't feel all excited or anything like i did in the beginning when i first became a christian 8 yrs ago - all that excitement and everything seems like it just died n faded away - i guess thats why sometimes i question my faith/walk - and why i "think" that God would consider me a lukewarm christian bc i'm not doin what i had been doing the first 3 or 4 yrs meaning not praying as often, rarely/almost never reading my bible and just choosing stuff now that i didn't choose back then - i wish i knew how to get that "revival" feeling back in my life like i did when i was in college a few yrs back - that was when i grew the most and now since i graduated almost 3 yrs ago, it just feels like everything has stopped or almost stopped that is.

you didn't watch the video?

 

[sk8brdkd]

sure i did - i watched the video back in march or whenever it was that i first posted this but at the moment, i can't remember what the video said - i'll watch it again though in a little while.

 

[brinny]

sure i did - i watched the video back in march or whenever it was that i first posted this but at the moment, i can't remember what the video said - i'll watch it again though in a little while.

 

[sk8brdkd]

brinny,

what do you want me to say? how else should i respond?

 

[Wells Marsh]

.. they thought that they too, could say they were saved. but they never actually believed in the first place. if they did, it would have been evident in their change.. in their fruits...

Don’t forget those who were saved and for one reason or another became deceived and fell away. Just because their current behavior is not a good witness, does not mean they were never, or are not, saved. We must not make assumptions or judgments.

 

[sk8brdkd]

I do appreciate everyone's comments on this subject matter as it can be a very controversial topic.

My main reason for bringing up the subject in the first place has to completely deal w/ my sister as i mentioned up above.

She is currently dating a guy whom she calls an atheist (he's an awesome guy) or he calls himself an atheist - i'm not sure which it is but, for her, thats not a great thing bc she has already fallen away from God and this current bf doesn't want anything to do w/ church n doesn't care either which makes her really not care.

She puts up a good front sometimes but, she Easily and always willngly denies that she is saved and that she is most likely going to hell which isn't something i want to hear but, she doesn't want to hear it so its not spoken when she's around.

1 thing I DON'T agree w/ that my parents do when she's around is this: When she eats dinner w/ us which isn't often, my parents usually don't pray b4 the meal when she's there n their reason as to why they don't is bc they say, they kno she hates prayer n don't want to make her feel more uncomfortable n want her to stay n eat w/ us which i do understand but what is the right way to come around this?? Should they make her feel uncomfortable n pray anyways n perhaps chase her away or not pray so she'll stay n eat w/ us??