Luke 9:57-62

[Kim R]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

 

[faroukfarouk]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

Romans 8.38-39 is a good passage about the true believer's security.

 

[John Hyperspace]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

If I said, I'm looking to form an alliance of people; a special forces of sorts. Anyone can enter but you have to have certain abilities: such as running a marathon. Now you come to me and say "I can't run a marathon" and I say "Then you're not fit for my team" does that make you think "Then I can never be on the team"? Because why would you think that? When you can run the marathon, then you're fit for the team.

If I say, "If you're under the law, then you can't enter grace" am I forbidding a person under the law from entering grace? I am. But am I forbidding the person to come out from under the law? I'm not. Come out from under the law, and you are now fit to enter the kingdom. This is all about changing your mind; the way you think. That is what "repent" means: to turn from the law, into grace. To "change your thinking" to "meta-mind" "think beyond": no man who thinks like a man is fit for a kingdom where men think like Christ: 1 Corinthians 2:16, Romans 12:2, Romans 8:6

 

[Soyeong]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

There are things that we can do to put us in a state where we can't be forgiven because they cut us off from the means by which we can be forgiven, namely unrepentance and unforgiveness. Jesus said that if we do not forgive others, then we will not be forgiven (Matthew 6:15), but that is a conditional statement, so we always have the option of forgiving others and repenting. You can look at all the evil things that Israel did, yet the consistent message of God through every single one of the prophets was to repent from our sins, and Jesus was no different because he came with the message to repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. So while we can do things that make us unworthy of the kingdom of God, there is nothing preventing us from repenting of those things.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple?

All the responses - which Jesus rejected - were excuses to avoid following Him. I doubt this was one person, but three different people.

“Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

First was the unspoken but - as Jesus could tell - firm demand for physical security, a place to stay.

“Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

Second was the excuse the person speaking could not follow Jesus until his Dad died (presumably leaving the speaker his inheritance). (That's what 'bury my father' really means.)

“Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

The third excuse was to clear up all the speaker's personal business BEFORE following Jesus; similar to the second. Jesus made it clear that is not what is demanded.

Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple?

I think so. It is obvious several of the people who dealt with Jesus in the New Testament had 'delayed' responses to Jesus. Nicodemus, for instance.

Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

From my understanding of Jesus' teaching, one can accept Christ until one's death. Many do not, of course.

 

[Winken]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

Check out Romans 8:1.

 

[Winken]

Does God forgive the person guilty of the things mentioned below? Or have they lost their chance to be saved and become a disciple? Can the person, even several years later after realizing their mistake, turn back to God and have another chance to be saved and become a disciple? Or is it one slip-up and done? Finality and doom, as the scriptures seem to say. A lost opportunity to be saved.

The Cost of Discipleship
57 Now it happened as they journeyed on the road, that someone said to Him, “Lord, I will follow You wherever You go.”

58 And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”

59 Then He said to another, “Follow Me.”

But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.”

61 And another also said, “Lord, I will follow You, but let me first go and bid them farewell who are at my house.”

62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

As nerve-racking that it is for some who confess Jesus as Savior, one does not look to the imperatives in Matthew, Mark and Luke, for issues of salvation by Grace through Faith. Eternal Security is the GIFT of God based upon the sacrifice of Jesus and your confession of Faith: Romans 10:8-13. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Romans 8:1. The "walk" is not conditional. It means that you, as a Christian, are now and forever will be, walking in His Presence. He never gets out of step.

 

[spruikah]

God does forgive us. As we strive to obey Jesus we must live not only by faith but by grace. The law is about what you have done or not done, but the Spirit is more about your relationship with God, and what direction you are heading in. If we love Jesus we will obey him, but when we fail, we can ask for his forgiveness and try again. If he tells us to forgive others 70 x 7, it's because he himself forgives us many times more.