Losing one's self.

[Tyruke]

What if you use to be the happiest person in the world. What if kindness used to flow through you like an ever flowing fountain of love? What if what defined you was the constant smile on your face?
What if all of a sudden you didn't feel that way anymore? What if all of a sudden the happiness was gone and the kindness lost. What if you find yourself angry at people instead of compassionate towards them? What if all of a sudden you became bitter and lived a life of depression and sadness everyday? What if what now defined you was the frown constantly on your face, and the tears falling down your cheeks?

How do you get that old wonderful person back? It would mean the world if someone could tell me.

 

[texastig]

What if you use to be the happiest person in the world. What if kindness used to flow through you like an ever flowing fountain of love? What if what defined you was the constant smile on your face?
What if all of a sudden you didn't feel that way anymore? What if all of a sudden the happiness was gone and the kindness lost. What if you find yourself angry at people instead of compassionate towards them? What if all of a sudden you became bitter and lived a life of depression and sadness everyday? What if what now defined you was the frown constantly on your face, and the tears falling down your cheeks?

How do you get that old wonderful person back? It would mean the world if someone could tell me.

Deliverance.
Thanks,
TT

 

[ForeverInHisHand]

Deliverance.
Thanks,
TT

Amen.

Christians suffer for a number of reason:
1) It's the common human condition - the consequence of sin is death...we would be human if we didn't suffer
2) To refine - The sin in our lives separates us from God, so He allows suffering to draw us back to Him.
3) To construct - Suffering is difficult at the time, but often times it is a blessing. If we didn't suffer, we would never be able to empathize with others. How would we lead others to Christ if we don't understand what they need?
4) To bring praise to God - Sometimes we suffer so that when we are healed, all will recognize it as a gift from God. And all will praise Him.


The devil is a powerful enemy and he attacks even more those who threaten him. He is only able to truly grip you when you have unconfessed sin in your life. Living in sin gives authority to the devil to work in your life.

Ask God to reveal to you your heart and if you have unconfessed sin. And there is nothing wrong with getting good christian council from a therapist or a deliverance ministry. If we don't understand the root of the issue, we will never see it. The spiritual realm is so complex.

Once delivered from this, God will use it for His glory. This suffering has a purpose.

God loves you more than you can comprehend.

You are in my prayers.

All glory to God.

Blessings.
FIHH

 

[vespasia]

Tyruke

That sounds like a description of real 'depression' rather than simply feeling a bit down and feed up.

The first thing to do is see a medical doctor expecially if you have endured this for more than four weeks or if you experience this between bouts of great happiness. Rule out the physical and mental causes of how you are feeling first.

Doctors offer a range of supportive stratergies from cognitive theraphies aimed at helping you tackle how your thinking to drugs.

Many people with real depression find a loving compassionate supportive Christian fellowship helpful.


You may find this folder on this forum of help too.
http://foru.ms/f393-depression.html

Praying for healing.

 

[Tenebrae]

Tyruke

That sounds like a description of real 'depression' rather than simply feeling a bit down and feed up.

The first thing to do is see a medical doctor expecially if you have endured this for more than four weeks or if you experience this between bouts of great happiness. Rule out the physical and mental causes of how you are feeling first.

Doctors offer a range of supportive stratergies from cognitive theraphies aimed at helping you tackle how your thinking to drugs.

Many people with real depression find a loving compassionate supportive Christian fellowship helpful.


You may find this folder on this forum of help too.
http://foru.ms/f393-depression.html

Praying for healing.

wise words here


It would be an important first step to get checked out by a doctor

 

[Johnnz]

Unless you can recognise something specific that has happened I would suspect something that your doctor may have some insight into.

Is your church life and teaching input positive and healthy?

John
NZ

 

[Tyruke]

Deliverance.
Thanks,
TT

Could you elaborate on that?

What if you felt like this condition I mentioned earlier was ruining your life? What if it made you feel insignificant? What if everyone told you it was just some stupid teenage depression thing? What if they said to just get over it, and that there exist other people who have it harder than you (which they do), but this information doesn't help you at all? What if everyone just keeps telling you to stop being ridiculous and just move on?

How does one handle that?

Could it be there's something inside being held onto that needs to be let go? And if so how does one go about finding what that is?

I appreciate all your answers, and I do feel that they will benefit me; but I need really good ones. The answers I usually get from Christians are usually the same and do not help, and I can't seem to think of them on my own. So please let me know that you are really trying to help and not just trying to make yourself look good. Within the situation I described above there have been a lot of Christians (granted that it's all been from one church). who have done that. I don't think the situation calls for any more ill-intended pain. (especially not from Christians).

 

[Tenebrae]

Tyruke

Have you been to a doctors, to be assessed for depression. Not a professional, however some of what you have described is similar to what a person who has been diagnosed with clinical depression

Your problem could be spiritual, however its really important to check out all possible causes of the stuff that you are facing.

When things were really bad, I had no desire to get out of bed in the morning wasnt eating, and was really struggling to keep my head above water, I got on a therapeutic dose of antidepressant, got some of the major stresses out of my life, and changed my diet, and am now doing really well. however it was sometime that took time

Other people have testimonies of being prayed for and the depression leaving them just like that. the process is different for different people, and sometimes it can be a long process to recover after a period of depression

If you wish, my PM box is always open

As for making myself look good, I share what I know and have learnt in the hope that it may be useful to someone else. If it helps, yay cool, if it doesnt, no biggie.

However I would strongly encourage you to go see your Doc

 

[ForeverInHisHand]

Tyruke,

I agree that this could be an issue requiring a medial doctor. However, my opinion is that you should seek spiritual healing first. Some churches have a deliverance ministry. Or you can visit with a christian therapist. It's about understanding potential root causes of your depression. Seek God to show you if it is indeed a spiritual issue.

If you find that it is not spiritual, then seek the aid of a medical doctor. Many MDs are so quick to prescribe and those that are unbelievers (and even some who are) don't understand the significance of spiritual attack.

This is just my opinion.

Also, I just want to add that no one has the right to tell you to 'get over it'. I pray that God would grant those is your life more wisdom and understanding.


God bless,
FIHH

 

[salida]

with His Spirit - the Holy Spirit and renew in me a heart filled with his unconditional love for others. We can't go by "feelings" as they go up and down. There are times that we can grow cold but this is our fault not Gods.

Just start all over again one day at a time and let the light of the Holy Spirit shine through you. Praying daily, medicating on His Word and surrounding yourself with inspirational friends like yourself does this.

If this is more of a medical problem, then again God helps us through all this. Take the proper meds and keep God in the front and center.

 

[TakeAllOfMe]

The biblical approach is to call the elders so they can annoint you with oil and pray for your healing.

I would also go to my doctor and get tests for my thyroid and adrenals. I would also talk to a counsellor to see if I could identify what happened at that time. Maybe your pastor could recommend a good Christian counsellor. Definitely rule of physical causes though.

 

[Tyruke]

"
I don't know where my future stops. It may end tonight, next week, in ten years, or when I'm old and gray.
I don't know where my future is. It may be in California, back east, in Colorado, or maybe even in Europe or Japan.
I don't know what my future is. A well-known author? A starving musician? An artisitic hermit closing himself out from the world that has laughed?
I don't know why my future is. What has God planned for me? Have I already done my task? Will I ever see what it is I was made for? How can He find me so precious when the world has judged my worth at naught?
I don't know. I just don't know.
I'm proud, naive, over-sensitive, easily offended, defensive, quick to imagine and slow to think through, argumentative, vain, loud, overconfident or not confident at all, rebellious, unsure of myself, angry, and confused. What could He want with me? I wish I knew, I truly, truly wish I knew. I want God to come into me and get rid of who I am. I only want Him there. I am good for nothing on my own. There is no good in me except for what I have let shine through me from God. And there isn't all that much of that either.
Why isn't it working? I don't want to fight it. I can't fight anymore."



Let's say that was something a friend of mine had said. How would one respond to that as a loving Christian who really cares?

 

[Elijah2]

Hi Tyruke,

You are 18 years of age, and you have plenty of water to go, and you haven't really seen life.

Wait until you get to my age.

Now how could a happy, bright, kind, compassion person all of a sudden throw the towel in and find themself living an opposite life.

So what really went wrong for you to lose all your sparkle?

Love in Christ

 

[Tyruke]

Hi Tyruke,

You are 18 years of age, and you have plenty of water to go, and you haven't really seen life.

Wait until you get to my age.

Now how could a happy, bright, kind, compassion person all of a sudden throw the towel in and find themself living an opposite life.

So what really went wrong for you to lose all your sparkle?

Love in Christ

That's the question for which an answer needs to be found. I am just not sure how to find that answer.

And I never once said that this whole situation I described was happening to myself. I'm just merely asking some hypothetical questions, that I feel are important to answer.

 

[Elijah2]

Well, one day I took a good look at myself and asked our Lord. And he said to me "The fruits!"

So I laid the nine fruit of the Spirit out in front of me and started from the bottom and work my way up.

self-control and patience was the start point. My how hard it was learning that all over again. So instead of allowing people to get me upset I would be patient and try to control my anger.

Then when I overcome and conquered those those, if then worked on being gentle and faithful. Well my faith began to soar, and when I felt that I was trying my hardest to be gentle with other people and including myself, because even trying to be self-controlled and patient with myself was dragging me down.

Now, I can say this because it works, but in my old age at times I fail myself, but the beautiful grace and love of our Lord Jesus Christ picks me up, dusts me, pats me on the bottom and says, "Keep going faithful servant, keep going!"

Then after overcoming and conquering those four failings and shortcomings, goodness and kindness came into place.

Now the last three, was even harder as I worked through all my hurts, offences, guilt, and shame, and His love and my love became the end product of this continual race of endurance.

I fall into a bad patch, and then I go back down the end of the ladder and start again.

Joy and peace are the hardest of all to find, the world and the enemy is always working hard to make you fall.

So please my dear sister, don't give up, and keep fight that good fight of faith.

The road is hard, and it isn't easy as many try to make it out to be.

When we can work through all our hurts, offences, resentfulnesses, anger, and bitterness, and confess and repent and forgive those who have caused us so much stress and anxiety we will then be able to go to sleep at night without any anger on our mind or heart.

As His Word says, "Don't let the sun set on anger!"

Much what other posters have said are good advice.

Please seek help through your church, or another mature Christian who you can talk to.

After we forgive people, we also need to forgive ourselves.

 

[whitedove7]

Sounds like to me you have a broken heart. The ways of people have hurt you and now you have a lot of pain.

The best way to get rid of the pain and get your joy back is to forgive those who have hurt you. Release them to God and allow God to deal with them. He does a better job than we can ever do. Forgiveness releases you from the hell of it issue.

 

[Musician4Jesus]

Unfortunately many people can't afford to see a doctor. Many people don't have medical insurance so as a result they can't afford to pay the bill of what it would cost to see a doctor. I would like to know how to overcome this myself. I feel sad all the time, nothing seems to make me happy, I am fed up with life and fed up with people. I know a contributing factor is that I've been through verbal and emotional abuse. I also know another contributing factor is that I've been through some very difficult times in the past year in about every aspect of my life. Things haven't become better despite my effort to make them better.

 

[ADeadVoice]

Now if as you said, this is not you but all hypothetical, Understand that these are questions that all of us entertain as humans from time to time, Sound advise on the doctor thing, or it could just be growing up?? Honestly No one can give you a simple answer on this question, It's such a complex thing....How do we attain brilliance once lost? that is something we all do differently

It is a path that is only for God to know and you to find, Its on the other side of hard work and perseverence. Its beyond that dream that you speak of, Its past your future and it is a part of your future.
A lot of growth happens between 18-25ish its when most people truely figure out what they are made of, its when you get to make your faith your own, your life is yours to decide, you have to make your own decisions...and thats a scary thought

My advise, take some time (because you have lots) Look into your soul and find out exactly what is going on, Only you can answer the questions you are asking...
Don't forget to be honest with yourself..sometimes we like to lie to ourselves the most, is there something you are hiding from?

Search your heart, and your soul, with Gods Love you will find the answers to your questions

I'm sorry theres no right good answer that I can give, All I can say Is I have experianced exactly what you are talking about and had to stop defining myself by my joy and realizing that I am human...but thats me...

 

[Elijah2]

At times I wonder if you really heed any advice that has been to given to you by many who respond to you despair?

Do you just accept only what you want to accept, and ignore everything else?

Unfortunately many people can't afford to see a doctor. Many people don't have medical insurance so as a result they can't afford to pay the bill of what it would cost to see a doctor.
Even in Australia we are very aware of the health system in America. America is the only country that has no National Health. I also know that Valerie Clinton tried her hardest to get a National Health scheme going for the people of America, and she was beaten by greedy politicians. If only they had succeeded, you may not be where you are now.

Have you approached your pastor for counselling and help?
I would like to know how to overcome this myself.
There are four ways of overcoming all torment, anger, bitterness, resentfulness, hatred, and unforgiveness, and they are: confession; repentance; forgiveness; and love.

So, are you prepared to "Set Yourself Free" by working through your life to heal your broken-heart, be delivered from evil, and be set free from captivity?
I feel sad all the time, nothing seems to make me happy, I am fed up with life and fed up with people.
Yes, I know exactly how you feel. I was like that when I was 22 years of age, I joined the Army, and basically ran away from all my hurts, etc., because I didn't know how to handle them, and I didn't really know what the problem was.

I had a verbal and emotional abusive childhood, satanic practices, and a sick mother.
I know a contributing factor is that I've been through verbal and emotional abuse.
Yep, those two are the start, but what about physical and spirituaal abuse?
I also know another contributing factor is that I've been through some very difficult times in the past year in about every aspect of my life.
You know my dear sister, I've suffered difficult time from day I was born, and for my past 70 years of life. But, I put my head down and my bum up, and faced my problems front on, once I became a believer in our Lord Jesus Christ, and took the challenge between my teeth, and told Satan to get in Jesus' Name.

DO you want to be SET FREE?
Things haven't become better despite my effort to make them better.
Please explan "effort"?

The start point is being truthful to our Lord Jesus Christ and begin confessing, repenting, forgiving, loving and begin to work hard in the Fruit of the Spirit through self-control, patience, gentleness, faithfulness, kindness, and goodness.

Life as a Christian isn't easy, and there are no "quick fixes" freedom except by HARD WORK!

Have you read any good books on healing and deliverance?

Have you dabbled in the powers of darkness?

Do you hold anger, bitterness, and resentfulness toward another human being?

Have you any unforgiveness in your heart?

Do you love all human beings the same as you love our Lord Jesus Christ?

If you want to help yourself then its time for you stop all of this and ask those people who are advising you where to start? That is, how you can heal and set yourself free through the Freedom in our Lord Jesus Christ.
There is no quick-fix to problems.


y dear sister I love you with all my heart, but for heavens sake stop putting yourself down, because you are a beautiful child of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[ADeadVoice]

Elijah2 are you aware that this thread was not started by M4J? we are only supposed to be giving advise to the op, or so I thought