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Looking at the two covenants...

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The old covenant was an agreement between God and man with certain terms which contain acts that could make people acceptable to God.

The acts in the old covenant were spelled out in stone and the terms to the old covenant were, obey or die.

Exodus 31:14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.

The new covenant is also an agreement between God and man with certain terms which contain acts that would make people acceptable to God.

The new covanant says people broke the old one so God will make a new one.

Jeremiah 31:31-32 "Behold, the days are coming,'' says the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,'' says the Lord.

Hebrews 8:8-9 Because finding fault with them (the people), He says: "Behold, the days are coming,'' says the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them,'' says the Lord. '

The new covenant is that God's Son will take the punishment for people breaking the old covenant which will allow God to legally forgive people. He will then write His Law in the heart of people and put His Spirit in them to help them obey His Law.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. "I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

Jeremiah 31:33-34 "But this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days, says the Lord, I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. "No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, `Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,'' says the Lord. "For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

Hebrews 8:10-12 "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. "None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, `Know the Lord,' for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.'' "

In the new covenant Jesus becomes our rightousness. We become acceptable to God in Christ, even with all our baggage.

In the new covenant it is no longer do or die, but rather, if you love Me.

The new covenant is based on God's grace. Grace is the fact that God does not give us what we deserve for breaking His Law. It's this grace seen in God's patience and long suffering that inspires us to keep His Law.

Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.

Living righteously and godly can only come from obeying God's Law.
 
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The new covenant is that God's Son will take the punishment for people breaking the old covenant which will allow God to legally forgive people. He will then write His Law in the heart of people and put His Spirit in them to help them obey His Law.
God doesn't and hasn't changed, and He has always been rich in mercy and able to forgive.
But...
He never installed that attribute into the law He created. The law received an entirely different means to reconcile the transgressor to it Creator, and that was by atonement by blood. The law doesn't have the ability to forgive installed in it.

Now, let's open your OP with a question.
What is the Law God promised to write into His redeemed, that isn't according to the covenant made at Sinai?
 
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The old covenant was an agreement between God and man with certain terms which contain acts that could make people acceptable to God.

The acts in the old covenant were spelled out in stone and the terms to the old covenant were, obey or die.

Agreed...

The new covenant is also an agreement between God and man with certain terms which contain acts that would make people acceptable to God.

The NEW COVENANT is NOT an agreement between God and man,
rather it is God's promise TO and FOR man.

In the NEW COVENANT, man promises God nothing
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God gave to Abraham the NEW COVENANT and God makes the promise!

 
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The NEW COVENANT is NOT an agreement between God and man, rather it is God's promise TO and FOR man.
Amen...the promise is to and for man but man has to believe and receive then God fills man with His love which will empower man to continue in His promise.
 
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If Scripture isn't your authority, then what is?

Hey, Victor. Long time no see! Welcome back!

For more information on the various perspectives of this subject, you might want to check out the thread titled "The Bible, The Word of God, Literal, Metaphoric or Something Else."

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Hey, Victor. Long time no see! Welcome back!
I came back when Tall73 invited me to join a discussion he was engaged in on the General Theology forum, and remained there until the SDA participation waned recently. I just haven't looked at the congregational forums in a long time. Thanks for the welcome
For more information on the various perspectives of this subject, you might want to check out the thread titled "The Bible, The Word of God, Literal, Metaphoric or Something Else."

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I haven't looked at that, but it comes down to "it is written..." that we have as an established example of our authority. I don't plan to deviate from that approach anytime soon.
 
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If Scripture isn't your authority, then what is?
That Which Is.

But authority structures must be understood in the context of our stage of development. Said in a different way, there are many memes.

Parents may create a rule for a child so they don't touch a hot stove. Ultimately, we hope our children will not need the rule because they obtain knowledge through experience. A 50-year-old isn't disobeying their parent if they choose to touch a hot stove. But they are when they are 3.

Reading about parenting is different than being a parent. And reading about others' perceptions of God is different than experiencing God and expanding our own perceptions.

This doesn't invalidate structures and forms – but it does suggest that context is important.
 
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Amen...the promise is to and for man but man has to believe and receive then God fills man with His love which will empower man to continue in His promise.

In adding 'BUT' as a condition to believing and receiving, the covenant is right back under Moses.

God's promise to Abraham...does not say 'BUT you have to believe'.
Scripture says what God promises...God is able to perform/fulfil!

 
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In adding 'BUT' as a condition to believing and receiving, the covenant is right back under Moses.

God's promise to Abraham...does not say 'BUT you have to believe'.
Scripture says what God promises...God is able to perform/fulfil!

Abraham believed God and it was counted...
 
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Abraham believed God and it was counted...
Good... Galatians 3 says it another way...
 
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If I understand what you're writing, you're telling me that you're too young to legally contribute to this discussion forum. If that isn't the case, what you wrote above makes absolutely no sense, and it doesn't answer the question I asked of you: If Scripture isn't your authority, then what is?
 
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I'm suggesting that you could entertain a more systemic question.
No.
You asked a direct question, and I provided a direct answer by quoting Malachi 3:6 for you.
Now you appear to reject what God spoke concerning Himself, and I am waiting for you to explain why.
 
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