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If it's cleansed of evil, doesn't that make it good? Why the need to replace it?
'For why should you die, O house of Israel?'No one said man does this alone. Where did you get that notion? It does say, and read carefully, 'cast away all your transgressions'. 'You' is the understood subject.
And where in the world did you get God is 'lamenting to them'? Why do you make this story up?
And God will create one for them when they cast away their transgressions. Isn't it wonderful when man cooperates with God? Although some would rather read only half the truth. Only when the heart is cleansed of evil can it be replaced with a new, clean heart.
'For why should you die, O house of Israel?'
and the idea is this
Ezekiel 33:11
Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’
It's replacing the heart of stone with a heart of flesh.Would you rather I said renew? Let me ask you this, is the old man replaced with a new man? Is regeneration replacing the old life with a new life?
Hello SDowney.KluteDavid said "The wild olive branch represents the Gentiles as a whole, "
Paul is describing individuals in Romans when referring to gentiles as wild branches.
I and You are singular persons, not all gentiles.
It sounds to me like your teaching only the nation Israel was elect.
17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.”
20 Well said.Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
Does God treat all gentiles as one being? No. Do all gentiles get grafted into the true vine, No.
See for you to teach this means you're teaching a universal salvation, that all gentiles are grafted as a group onto the True Vine.
And your teaching if one falls they all fall, if one is saved, all are saved.
First person singular pronouns, represent one entity or person. Paul is neverPaul is describing individuals in Romans when referring to gentiles
as wild branches. I and You are singular persons, not all gentiles.
Israel was indeed the chosen nation, the elect nation.It sounds to me like your teaching only the nation Israel was elect.
Good point SDowney, I will clarify what I said by saying that the wild olive tree,See for you to teach this means you're teaching a universal salvation, that
all gentiles are grafted as a group onto the True Vine. And your teaching if one falls
they all fall, if one is saved, all are saved.
That's not what the verse says.No, I've what I've said, I've said all along. It is man cooperating with God to make himself a new heart.
I agree with you.That is clearly incorrect. The wild olive tree (or branch) represents saved Gentiles only, while the good olive tree means saved Jews. The whole point of this section is to remind saved Gentiles to not be high-minded but always keep in mind that salvation came to Israel first, and that the Church began with saved Jews (see Acts 2), and only after than were Gentiles "grafted" in.
Why would a corrupt tree care about God's word?By the truth from God's word, the whole truth. Try Ezekiel 18:31.
Why would a corrupt tree care about God's word?
There's that deflection again.There's that 'Trinity' controversy again.
Nothing in that verse about making yourself good first.Maybe Godly sorrow has something to do with it.
How is a man born again without the Word?
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Nothing in that verse about making yourself good first.
We aren't talking about true children. We are talking about why someone who has a heart of stone would want to be s child in the first place.Why would someone want to say the believe in God and still want to live in evil? I just don't understand this. Why wouldn't a true child of God want to live a holy life in all manner of life? Why wouldn't they want to clean their life?
I didn't say that. But you know that, right?So, there is nothing good about God's word? I guess you are just going to have it your way.
We aren't talking about true children. We are talking about why someone who has a heart of stone would want to be s child in the first place.
I never said it wasn't good.No Hammster you didn't. I said that. What is not good about God's word? Why would Ezekiel 18:31 not be good?
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