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One would wonder than why there are so many Christians who only go to church but otherwise don't incorporate God much into their lives?Quite right, Marvin, Calvin did argue all our decisions were predetermined by God. The problem, then, is that we really have no free will, no choice, as we can choose only as God preprogrammed us to choose. If we truly have free will, then Good cannot devised our decisions for us. Also, if you have read through his "Institutes," you will know that he actually mocks at the idea of free will, as did Luther in his "Bondage of teh Will."
What to you makes it a heresy? And is heresy the right word? All it has even meant is that one did not acre with the doctrines of a certain church; it says nothing about the truth or falsehood of t what the "heretic" has to say. Remember, Galileo was considered a heretic, so, too, Martin Luther, etc. So, what exactly is your case?
God forbid that you or the clergy should bring us something intellectual such as church doctrines, dogmas, etc.
Cush, I would appreciate it if you would put this in your own words. I do not have the time to go gallivanting around, reading other sites. Furthermore, I am talking to you, not them.
The predestining by God of everything that happens in history, including all of the choices made by people, does not in any way equate to the so called "programming" of those choices.Quite right, Marvin, Calvin did argue all our decisions were predetermined by God. The problem, then, is that we really have no free will, no choice, as we can choose only as God preprogrammed us to choose. If we truly have free will, then Good cannot devised our decisions for us. Also, if you have read through his "Institutes," you will know that he actually mocks at the idea of free will, as did Luther in his "Bondage of teh Will."
...the NT introduces God as a loving God, and when you love someone, you don't condemn them to horrible punishments.
The other issue here is whether or not there is any hope for us. According to Calvin, the vast majority of the human race is doomed to eternal damnation. Only a tiny minority are saved and they are so few in number that Calvin says they probably do not meet up with each other in this lifetime. So, chances are that holds for us. But who wants to believe in such a hopeless situation.
Why shouldn't they be? Churches should be right, not wrong. And there is a whole lot wrong with the left.However, I work out of a liberal Christian perspective. Not all churches or Christians are on the right, nor should they be.
The debate idea creats trolls. I worship, not debate. I don't fight jesus like you.I said this:
"It's a lot easier to troll than to actually engage the views of others."
This is just a really obvious example of how to dodge questions and avoid any serious discussion.
The truth is that you won't cover what has already been covered because you can't. Or you would have.
I understand your complete unwillingness to engage my views substantively. And it's ok to admit it.
Well, you've clearly communicated that you consider me an unregenerate. Which is saying that I'm not saved. Which violates forum rules.
This is a debate forum, so it appears that you're out of your league, or in over your head. Which does explain WhY you would dodge rather than actually engage my posts. So, thanks for the info.
Once again, wrong again. I'm a male teaching anyone who reads my posts spiritual things of God.
Are you a female trying to teach others?
Please prove your outlandish claim that I am or have fought Jesus. What a ridiculous charge.The debate idea creats trolls. I worship, not debate. I don't fight jesus like you.
You just said no one goes to hell
You're telling God that your are superman and you are not totaly depraved. The calvinist reads in the bible for themselves and learns sin is a lot worst than it looks.I said no such thing, I just quoted scripture.
The TRUTH is in scripture, which tells us that God's grace has appeared to all men and that God has shown mercy to all.
That doesn't mean that all men cooperate with God's grace or accept his mercy.
You're telling God that your are superman and you are not totaly depraved. The calvinist reads in the bible for themselves and learns sin is a lot worst than it looks.
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