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This is confusing. I read this yesterday and I'm re-reading it today and I still don't understand the point. What exactly are you getting at with the Locust?
But Ronald...the question I asked in response to your post was....where did I change my mind? What, in the quotes you gave demonstrates a change of mind?
Yes, I am saying I believe the fifth trump has sounded and it released the locusts, in one of their stages. Yes, that would necessarily mean the previous four trumpets have blown.
You just made this comment right here which contradicts the comment above>>>
*referring to my previous list of events within trumpets 1-5.We agree that it has never happened before.
I didn't say you changed your mind, I asked if you did! I thought that either you changed your mind or you are obviously contradicting yourself.
I have to put this topic to rest since I have said all I can say. I will say that anxiety, negativity, anger, frustration and hate is really stirring up the Muslim world and that they appear to be a swarm, but they don't characterize any of the other descriptions of the locusts. This is all part of the beginnings of birth pangs. Trumpets #1 -7 will be blown in the near future, you will not mistake them.
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I'll end my post in this thread with a funny joke:
Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, Osama Bin Laden meets a man with a beard. 'Are you Mohammed?' he asks.
'No my son, I am Peter; Mohammed is higher up. Peter then points to a ladder that rises into the Clouds.
Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, Osama climbs the ladder in great strides, climbs up through the clouds and comes into a room where he meets another bearded man. He asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'
'Why no he answers, I am Moses; Mohammed is higher still.'
Exhausted, but with a heart full of joy he climbs the ladder yet
Again, he discovers a larger room where he meets an angelic looking man with a beard. Full of hope, he asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?
'No, I am Jesus, the Christ...you will find Mohammed higher up. '
Mohammed higher than Jesus! Man, oh man! Osama can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs ever higher. Once again, he reaches an even larger room where he meets this truly magnificent looking man with a silver white beard and once again repeats his question: "Are you Mohammed?" he gasps as he is by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.
'No, my son.... I am God, the Father of all who have been cleansed by the blood of my Son, Jesus ... but you look exhausted. Would you like a cup of coffee?"
Osama says, "Yes please"! As God looks behind him, he claps his hands and yells out: "Hey Mohammed - two coffees!"
After their coffees, God said, "Do you realize that today is judgment day for you?" Osama said, "Yes Allah, can I have my virgins now?" God, annoyed by his assumption, said, "My name is not Allah and virgins you will not receive. However, you will be ushered down to a different location ... way down ... to receive the fruit of all your labor ... Oh and Satan (alias Allah and author of your evil works) will be waiting to receive you as well ... no charge for the coffee!"
Bye
This is all part of the beginnings of birth pangs. Trumpets #1 -7 will be blown in the near future, you will not mistake them.
I'll end my post in this thread with a funny joke:
quote=NightHawkeye;57374813]... and you say that with such certainty ... so I will offer this ...
The locusts are people....Islamic hordes.
They began swarming in 1969....all leading up to the final days. Prophecy being fulfilled.
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Glad to see you are keeping an open mind.I watched the video.
Kinda hard to say who is mis-interpreting scripture, Ronald.It's similar to the other scenario presented. Lots of money was spent to produce something that misinterprets scripture.
Not sure you watched the same video I did, Ronald.The symbolic interpretations in this video resemble only a few chosen events that fit their scenario and leave out the majority of descriptions that don't work for them.
Again, the seven years is just one of several well-known historical interpretations. There are multiple time periods and durations specified ... for example 3 1/2 year periods ... in different places ... no single definitive timetable is provided in scripture.The time frame is 7 years but it is over after that and the Millenium begings.
1. Sadaam was evil and a destroyer no doubt as was Hitler and Osama Bin Laden. They were antichrists for sure but not the one who takes control of the entire world during the Great Tribulation.
2. The Antichrist is destroyed by Christ after the rapture and then Satan is locked up for 1,000 years. Did this take place? Was Sadaam Apollyon? No!
3. Chernobyl does mean wormwood and it was likened to and named after the Biblical wormwood but that doesn't mean that it is. You can name your son Jesus too but that doesn't make him the Biblical Christ.
4. WWII lasted for 7 years and that ushered in 1000 years of peace did it ??? and you received your resurrected body did you ??? Was All Evil put down??? Oh but you say the seventh trumpet hasn't sounded yet. See the time frame, symbolic references and order of events are all screwed up in this scenario.
5. Oil fields on fire are not the Abyss opening up and releasing 200 million locusts that sting and torture people without killing them for 5 months. I suppose the people of Kuwait represent all who have the mark of the beast? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not even close.
6. Nor did the smoke cover 1/3 of the planet,
7. Nor did 1/3 of the fish in the sea die,
8. Nor did 1/3 of the people on the planet die,
9. Nor were 1/3 of the sea vessels on the planet destroyed.
10. ALL the other details that are conveniently missing as well.
This video is yet another Pre-Trib delusional scenario. Tim LaHaye did much better than that but he is also wrong. But hey, they made a lot of money. Unfortunately, their followers will be disappointed when the rapture doesn't conveniently happen before the super devastation on earth begins. Now I'm done.
You are very mistaken.
Fire -
Jeremiah 5:14 thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
Trees -
Isaiah 55:12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
"I will make my words in your mouth fire" is symbolic and means God's pure word in contrast to false words of false prophets. But this is not the context of the book of Revelation.
"Trees and mountains singing and clapping hands ..." Do you think that the Great Tribulation in the book of Revelation describes some kind of joyous party? Maybe you can get down, get funky and get loose with a new dance to the sound of the trumpets?
Is. 55:12 is giving figurative language to the celebration of the Hebrews departure of Babylonian captivity.
I didn't say symbolism doesn't exit.
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