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Maynard Keenan

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Thing is she will be very disappointed when the new kitty has a different personality than her old one....clones arent exact duplicates, more like an identical twin. I['m not against it, its her decision to waste the money...but I'd never do it.
 
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nyj said:
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

That lady paid $50,000 for a kitten that has the genetic makeup of a 17 year old cat.

Can you say... dead within a year or so? What a waste.

When Dolly was cloned, there were questions about how long she would live. There is something called "telomeres" that function as an internal clock and determine how old you are physically. I'm not sure if they solved the problem, or if it's not a problem at all.

http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SU/dolly599.html
 
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RhetorTheo said:
When Dolly was cloned, there were questions about how long she would live. There is something called "telomeres" that function as an internal clock and determine how old you are physically. I'm not sure if they solved the problem, or if it's not a problem at all.

http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SU/dolly599.html
Interesting, I never thought of it that way. :confused:
 
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Brother Simon said:
I, for one, oppose. :mad:
Maybe there's better things she should be spending her money on than a new cat, but I don't particularly have a problem with cloning animals. If it were people, I'd have a big problem with it, but not cats.
 
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Paul S said:
Maybe there's better things she should be spending her money on than a new cat, but I don't particularly have a problem with cloning animals. If it were people, I'd have a big problem with it, but not cats.
But, one thing leads to another. Unfortunately, if cloning animals or pets becomes an acceptable practice, then it will be only a matter of time before humans and children are cloned. :sigh:
 
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RhetorTheo said:
When Dolly was cloned, there were questions about how long she would live. There is something called "telomeres" that function as an internal clock and determine how old you are physically. I'm not sure if they solved the problem, or if it's not a problem at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2764039.stm

Dolly was cloned from a 6 year old sheep. Dolly died at age 6.

Sheep have a lifespan of around 11-12 years.
 
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nyj said:
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

That lady paid $50,000 for a kitten that has the genetic makeup of a 17 year old cat.

Can you say... dead within a year or so? What a waste.


Actually, the 17 year old cat has had that same genetic makeup its whole life. Genetic makeup in an individual is a constant. When that cat was cloned, the cloned cat did have the same genetic makeup as that 17 year old cat, but is in a state where its just a kitten, identicle to 17 year old cats "kitten age". The cloned cat will probably live to be 15-20 years of age.
 
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Crispie said:
Actually, the 17 year old cat has had that same genetic makeup its whole life. Genetic makeup in an individual is a constant. When that cat was cloned, the cloned cat did have the same genetic makeup as that 17 year old cat, but is in a state where its just a kitten, identicle to 17 year old cats "kitten age". The cloned cat will probably live to be 15-20 years of age.

99.999% or so constant.

Remember, DNA has errors in its copying mechanisms. Mutations, not matter how small they are, do happen.

Sorry, just had to throw that one in there :).
 
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I have a problem with it, even if its not a human being. The idea of throwing away that much money is absurd. There are people out there that can't afford to buy food and we have people spending tens of thousands of dollars creating a cat. For heavens sake, go to the pound and pick out one that looks like the old one.
 
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Dark_Lite said:
99.999% or so constant.

Remember, DNA has errors in its copying mechanisms. Mutations, not matter how small they are, do happen.

Sorry, just had to throw that one in there :).

haha, yeah yeah but we all know that has nothing to do with what were talking about :p Gz, making this into a biology class!:sigh:
 
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racer said:
But, one thing leads to another. Unfortunately, if cloning animals or pets becomes an acceptable practice, then it will be only a matter of time before humans and children are cloned. :sigh:
I'm not sure - we do many things with animals that would be completely unacceptable with humans. I hope you're wrong, but with the way society's going, you're probably right. :(
 
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