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Lines of Evidence ( Part 1 : ERVs )

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To expose the pseudoscience of creationism.

I rely on science to demonstrate creation. The incredible complexity and sophistication of it all...
 
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Interesting life.
 
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Interesting life.

Yeah, it's been a crazy roller coaster ride! I think school pretty much began to fade into the background once I discovered that I had natural skill sets which only required daily life to groom them. (that happened about two years before my first expulsion) Hence my interest in academic pursuits has been more of a hobby than a passion.
i.e. Evolution (esp. Human Evolution)
 
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I rely on science to demonstrate creation. The incredible complexity and sophistication of it all...

Uh-hum.
Evolution doesn't really demonstrate creation. If you're going to go back that far, you'd probably need to summon the locksmith. (or a physicist*)

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* Prof. Steven Wienberg:

'....This work on the very early universe represents real progress, but it is progress of a conceptual sort, only distantly related to observations of the present universe. We are today not much closer than we were in 1976 in understanding the origin of the structures that fill our universe: galaxies and clusters of galaxies. As we look out at the night sky, the great arc of the Milky Way and the faint luminous patch of the Andromeda Nebula continue to mock our ignorance.' (from 'The First Three Minutes' )
 
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Then you accept common ancestry between humans and chimps, and the evolution of both lineages?

Will you accept that "natural selection" is really the hand of God working? All that is needed is for you to see actual purpose in the creation instead of blind luck.
 
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Science presents the evidence, I interpret it.
 
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Will you accept that "natural selection" is really the hand of God working? All that is needed is for you to see actual purpose in the creation instead of blind luck.
But it isn't blind luck. Natural selection is not really a luck-based process.
 
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Will you accept that "natural selection" is really the hand of God working? All that is needed is for you to see actual purpose in the creation instead of blind luck.

I will accept that God acting through evolution is a faith based belief that has no evidence against it which puts it a leg up on YEC, OEC, and ID. I have seen christians claim that God has blessed them or helped them even though the events are indistinguishable from random events. This is because they have faith that God is looking out for them, even if events appear to be random. Why would evolution be any different than the rest of science that you already accept?

Also, all that you need to do is evidence purpose and I will accept it.
 
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We do things on purpose. We are purposeful beings. In fact we often substitute survival for purpose. Strange that.
 
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Science presents the evidence, I interpret it.

Yes. 1 Corinthians 2:15
The natural man assumes nothing is causing the waters to move, looks only for a naturalistic reason.
I like the word 'intuition' (you used) -- you obviously mean 'faith' i.e. Hebrews 11, correct?
 
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Yes. 1 Corinthians 2:15
The natural man assumes nothing is causing the waters to move, looks only for a naturalistic reason.
I like the word 'intuition' (you used) -- you obviously mean 'faith' i.e. Hebrews 11, correct?

I mean intuition. Even before I 'got religion' I couldn't see how evolution was true.
 
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