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This lesson for the first Sunday of Advent was written by Elizabeth Eaton, the Presiding Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA).

It is posted here in the Anglican forum because it is part of "A series of Advent devotions prepared by the leaders of Anglican and Lutheran churches in full communion.". Week two and three are by Anglicans, making the series as a whole half Anglican, and I thought it'd defeat the purpose of the ecumenical project these are a part of to skip the two Lutheran parts in week one and four (Or to shuffle them off to other fora).

Plus, I thought this in and of itself was a good "mini-sermon" and might make for an interesting discussion on the forum.

Here is Bishop Eaton's contribution to the project:

 
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What's wrong with people who do Christmas shopping ? Shall we hate anyone who is different to us now? Let's look for hope not hatred
 
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What's wrong with people who do Christmas shopping ? Shall we hate anyone who is different to us now? Let's look for hope not hatred

I had a little trouble following the middle portion of the sermon, but I didn't see any exhortation to hate people who give gifts to others on Christmas.
 
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Where does the bishop say that there is anything wrong with people who do Christmas shopping?
please accept my sincerest apologies it was late last night and in my befuddled mind I thought your bishop was sneering at Christmas decorations and other worldly pastimes of the common man. I'm very sorry my soul is weary and in need of redemption. I have started a thread asking for help, so I shall bother you no more. Andrew
 
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Sometimes sermons in particular are not the easiest things in the world to parse.

This reminds me of one former vicar of mine, who refused to publish his sermon texts because "sermons are meant to be heard, not read."
 
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It's a poor sermon, honestly. Full of "Radical Lutheran" clichés that are popular in the ELCA, wedged in there no matter how awkward. As my pastor points out to me repeatedly, it's an oversimplification of the Law-Gospel hermeneutic.
 
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