Originally posted by Outspoken
"Every Christian who lived between the death of Christ and the 1500's simply ignored what the Bible says"?
wrong againif they said homosexuality is right, THEN they ignored what the bible says.
As for slavery, yup, those that accepted it ignored what the bible said. There were individuals that practiced it correctly in terms of indentured serventhood, which is acceptable just like having a butler or maid, etc... is now a days.
Originally posted by seebs
But during those 1500 years, they thought slavery in general, the outright ownership of a human, was perfectly acceptable. If there were exceptions, they left no written records anyone has ever cited.
I personally find it easier to believe that humans, being fallible, can be just plain wrong, not because they *ignore* the Bible, but because it is subject to interpretation.
Originally posted by Starscream
So I can beat the living **** out of my bulter and as long he lives for at least 3 days after the beating I'm in the clear?
Originally posted by Starscream
I think what is spefically telling is the approach taken in these debates:
seebs: I may be wrong, but I think ...
Outspoken: I cannot be wrong, and I know ...
If there is a truth to be found then who do you suppose has a better chance of finding it?
Originally posted by seebs
I would hope I do - but at the same time, I also have a better chance of being led away from it, if I happen to start there.
The question is... How likely is it that my first impression is the truth? My guess is "not all that likely". Furthermore, I believe that truth will be *distinct* from falsehood; if I compare them honestly, I cannot believe that falsehood is just as likely to seem reasonable as truth.
So... I guess, Outspoken is showing faith that God will lead him to the truth on the first try, and I'm showing faith that God will lead me towards the truth, no matter how hard it is for me to understand it at first. I guess I'm a lot less confident than he is.
Originally posted by Starscream
You're a fellow coder, correct? How often do your programs run successfully the first time? How successful a programmer would you be if you were convinced that your code contained no bugs?
It has been my experience, both in my profession and in my personal life, that understanding your own potential to make errors is the only way to go.
I get suspicious when I'm in the company of people that cannot even entertain the possibility that they may be wrong or mistaken about something.
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