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Let's Set The Fossil Record Straight

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Speedwell

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and what about several creation events without evolution?
Raises more questions than it answers, for instance:

If there were multiple creation events without evolution then each species would have to have been created separately--including those which were created and then became extinct as found in the fossil record. Yet we can oberve speciation in the present, both in the lab and in the field. Why should we suppose that in the past there was no speciation?

If there were multiple creation events with subsequent evolution, which should we believe that a "designer" capable of such a thing would not just create once and let evolution do the whole job?
 
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and what about several creation events without evolution?

I suppose if you want to invent your own narrative, you can come up with anything you want.
 
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who talk about speciation? even hard-core creationists accept speciation. we are talking about different animals and not just about variations of the same creature.


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who talk about speciation? even hard-core creationists accept speciation. we are talking about different animals and not just about variations of the same creature.


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So you accept evolution, but you think it began with multiple life creation events, not just one. Is that right? Why?
 
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but still without evolution. so its basically still a form of creation.

Like I said, you're free to make up whatever narrative you want. You could even include self-replicating watches and cars in it. Fan fiction is fun like that.
 
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but its fit well with the evidence.

So does Last Thursdayism, what's your point?

That's the thing about making up completely unbounded narratives, they can used to fit whatever you want them to fit.
 
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not evolution but creation. its possible that several creation events happened.
If you accept that speciation occurs then you accept evolution. You are aware, I hope, that evolution includes speciation?

In any case, you did not answer my question.

If life began, as you say, from multiple creation events rather than just one, and developed from there, why do you believe that? sure, it's possible, I suppose, even though there isn't any evidence for it. Why do you prefer it as an alternative?
 
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That's true.

I got my information from this picture:


The picture is incomplete since it shows the creatures of the present Earth mixed up with Humans (Adam) and Humans coming last. Humans were made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 which was billions of years, in man's time, BEFORE the living creatures that moveth were created and brought forth from Water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21

Since Adam was formed from the dust on the 3rd Day, it is impossible that he could have been the last of the creatures made. In fact, Adam was first made. He was however, "created in God's image" or born again Spiritually in Christ, on the 6th Day, AFTER all other living creatures were made. Gen 5:1-2 Notice that Eve was "created" at the same time and she was NOT made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 Amen?
 
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I suppose if you want to invent your own narrative, you can come up with anything you want.
Ah, so when AV began with the invented narrative that the angels wanted God to bury all the dead animals after the flood in the order of the geologic column, he started something. If folks are allowed to make up explanations and say God did it, the sky is the limit.
 
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That should not necessarily be meant as a criticism. All decently crafted theological propositions are unfalsifiable. It's when people try to prove them with science that they run into trouble.
 
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Twisted logic sets nothing straight.
 
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Creationist fan fiction at its finest.
 
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Ah, so when AV began with the invented narrative that the angels wanted God to bury all the dead animals after the flood in the order of the geologic column,
Reading comprehension at its finest.

Once, there was this man traveling from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among thorns. And the thorns sprung up and choked him, and as he was going on, he didn't have any money, so he met the Queen of Sheba. She gave him 1,000 talents of gold and 100 charges of raiment. He then got into a chariot and drove furiously, and when he was driving under a big juniper tree, his hair got caught in the limb of that tree and he hung there many days. The ravens brought him food to eat and water to drink, and he ate 5,000 loaves of bread and two fishes. One night while he was hanging there, asleep, his wife, Delilah, came along and cut off his hair and he dropped and fell on the stony ground. But, he got up and continued on. Soon it began to rain. It rained for forty days and forty nights, and the water rose so high that a great fish swallowed him, but it threw him up 3 days later. Being confused by all these events, he hid himself in a cave and lived on locusts and wild honey.
When the rain stopped he went on until he met a servant who said, "Come, take supper at my house!" But the man made excuses and said, "No, I won't. I have married a wife and i can't go." But, the servant went out into the highways and hedges and compelled him to come in.
After supper, he went on his way and finally came down into the Jericho. When he got there, he looked up and saw that old queen Jezebel sitting way up high in a window. She laughed at him! The man became furious and said, "Throw her down out of there!" So, they threw her down. Then he said, "Throw her out of there again!" And they threw her down seventy times seven, and of the pieces that remained, they picked up twelve baskets full, besides the women and children. Then, the man said, "Blessed are the *piecemakers*." Now, whose wife will she be on the Judgement Day?

The End.
 
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Am I suposed to be surprised that language developes or that there were multiple writers in the OT.
As I said there is no linguistic evedience that the pentituc was written in Babylon.
 
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