Let us make man in our image

[Quans]

Why does Genisis sunddley change to us and our as in let us make man in our image ? and talking about man as them?

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[revduane]

Why does Genisis sunddley change to us and our as in let us make man in our image ? and talking about man as them?

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Because God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, The Trinity was before the foundation of the world. "US"

Then Adam and Eve were given dominion over all of the earth. The were to be fruitful and multiply. So the offspring of Adam was to have dominion also. THEY or THEM. But then Adam and Eve gave Satan dominion when they bowed their knee to him, and disobeyed God.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

The "We" and "Us" is commonly thought of as being what we would call "the royal 'We'"--i.e. a pronoun employed by powerful people when referring to themselves. Thus the English monarchs and Popes would, in the past, refer to themselves using "We".The verse speaks of man as 'him' simply because God created Adam, a single man. But 'man' also refers to the human race, and thus God created "them"--i.e. the entire human race, making them male and female.

 

[linssue55]

Why does Genisis sunddley change to us and our as in let us make man in our image ? and talking about man as them?

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

This is SOUL image, for we are NOTHING like the trinity in (except Christ.....the human body, and the body only....before His resurrection).

 

[TrevorL]

Howdy Quans,

Greetings. There have been a number of suggestions for the obvious plural.
Genesis 1:26-27 (KJV): "26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
When God speaks in v.26 there is the plural of "us", "our" and "our". But when it records God’s creation in v.27, there is in contrast a singular "his", "he’ and "he". A first step in understanding this is to recognize that in both verses, the word "God" (Heb. "Elohim") is a plural word, and according to the context this is translated as "God", "god", "gods", "angels", "judges".

David using terms from the creation speaks of the new creation centred in Jesus.
Psalm 8:4-8 (KJV): "4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: 7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas."
In the above KJV "the angels" is the same word "Elohim" as in Genesis 1:26,27, and if "angels" is accepted here then this confirms that the plural of Genesis 1:26-27 includes the angels.

This is not universally accepted because some translations do not translate "Elohim" here as "angels", refer the following:
Psalm 8:5 (1901 ASV): "For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor."
Psalm 8:5 (RSV): "Yet thou hast made him little less than God, and dost crown him with glory and honor."
In each of the above, KJV "the angels’, ASV "God", RSV "God" is the same word as "God" in Genesis 1:26,27.

The KJV translation of Psalm 8:5 is confirmed to be acceptable and even preferred by the quotation and comments on Psalm 8:5 in the following:
Hebrews 2:7-9 (KJV): "7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

David then interprets Genesis 1:26, telling us that the plurality includes the angels, and this is also confirmed by the writer to the Hebrews. This all shows that Genesis 1:26-27 speaks concerning the creation of man by the One God and the angels.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[PaladinValer]

Just because it is possibly a royal "we" doesn't automatically mean "Trinity."

Most likely, it refers to God and the Heavenly Host. The idea that it could mean the Trinity is very scketchy.

 

[Quans]

Howdy Quans,

Thanks Trevor, I'll look it up, but just scan reading your answer kind of makes sense thanks for your effort in explaining it to me..

 

[TreesNTrees]

The "We" and "Us" is commonly thought of as being what we would call "the royal 'We'"--i.e. a pronoun employed by powerful people when referring to themselves. Thus the English monarchs and Popes would, in the past, refer to themselves using "We".The verse speaks of man as 'him' simply because God created Adam, a single man. But 'man' also refers to the human race, and thus God created "them"--i.e. the entire human race, making them male and female.

That too, can be considered very accurate.

If somebody knew figures of speech, and read Genesis alone, or the Old Testament alone, they could come to the conclusion that God inspired the figure of speech HETEROSIS to the holy man of God by which Genesis came to exist.

When a monarch or supremer ruler says "WE" when referring to themself, it puts the singular into the plural. That's the figure HETEROSIS.

That figure would enable a person to understand an interpretation and an importance in the first part of Genesis, without attempting to supply an interpretation.

 

[Wavy]

Well, "Elohim" is overused to exaggerate the trinity...

But anyway, I believe it refers to the plurality of Yahweh. His many attributes. One interesting thing I discovered recently is that the Spirit of Yahweh in the Hebrew is used with feminine pronouns (this is lost in the Greek because in the Greek it is neuter) and is associated with that female aspect in the plurality of Yahweh.

That is how, at least I believe, he created them male and female. Us his plurality. He and his Spirit and wisdom. All of him through his Son.