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The Koch Brothers?The media has been promoting unrestricted immigration as 'progressive', good for the country, we are all immigrants, moderate left and such.
I am moderate left and it certainly isn't moderate left, but the media will say anything to support their master's agenda.
It sounds to me like your own stubbornness is keeping you from getting work, then. Most people in the world speak at least two languages because it’s necessary. Spanish is probably the easiest to learn, why not just do it?
The media has been promoting unrestricted immigration as 'progressive', good for the country, we are all immigrants, moderate left and such.
I am moderate left and it certainly isn't moderate left, but the media will say anything to support their master's agenda.
It certainly isn't left because it harms those of us with lower incomes by increasing competition for low skilled jobs and for lower priced rental housing.
It's not necessary in the field I do. Sorry. Banking, okay I can see that. Food service, okay.
Your saying I'm stubborn?!
What about the people who move to my native country? Who are the truly stubborn ones?
The guy that moves to your house and demands you speak the way he wants?
Or the guy who owns the house and wishes you speak his way when you move in?
Yet you say you have been denied jobs because you don't speak any Spanish. If a significant number of those in your field speak Spanish, then it seems like it would be necessary.It's not necessary in the field I do. Sorry. Banking, okay I can see that. Food service, okay.
It cuts both ways. I'm in workforce development training, which includes ESL. All of the ESL programs I am aware of are full to the brim with long waiting lists.Your saying I'm stubborn?!
What about the people who move to my native country? Who are the truly stubborn ones?
If he's here legally then it's not your house he's moving into, it's a country that you are sharing.The guy that moves to your house and demands you speak the way he wants?
Or the guy who owns the house and wishes you speak his way when you move in?
You’re the one who said you couldn’t get work because of not speaking Spanish, so clearly it is necessary, albeit you may think the reasons are not valid.It's not necessary in the field I do. Sorry. Banking, okay I can see that. Food service, okay.
Your saying I'm stubborn?!
What about the people who move to my native country? Who are the truly stubborn ones?
The guy that moves to your house and demands you speak the way he wants?
Or the guy who owns the house and wishes you speak his way when you move in?
Not that I have seen. Quote them please.
Your wish has come true, someone posted exactly that just an hour later:
why is the middle class for increased immigration and the low incomes against?
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Your two claims are at odds. Either it is a requirement and you did not get the job because of it or it is not and the reason you did not get the job is something else.
Yet you say you have been denied jobs because you don't speak any Spanish. If a significant number of those in your field speak Spanish, then it seems like it would be necessary.
If he's here legally then it's not your house he's moving into, it's a country that you are sharing.
I don’t know why moving to the U.S. is an act of stubbornness, which is an unwillingness to change.
Yes, I think it is stubborn not to adapt to circumstances in order to make a living. The only person you’re hurting is yourself
I think that may have more to do with Florida than with Spanish-speaking immigrants generally. You might find that you are dealing with people who consider themselves as in exile rather than as immigrants.I move to Florida, and suddenly it's impossible. Though I have noticed one thing, but I wont mention it as that would only be my observation for this particular area and I cant say that it is total fact.
All of the ESL programs I am aware of (and I am in that business, as I said) are full to capacity with long waiting lists. However, I have never worked in Florida.Usually, when you go to a country, you try to learn their language so that you can deal with them, not the other way around.
I didnt say moving to a country was stubborn. You misread.
I said it is stubborn to move to a country and force them to cater to your language by your stubbornness to not learn their language. Their unwillingness to change.
I didnt say moving to a country was stubborn. You misread.
I said it is stubborn to move to a country and force them to cater to your language by your stubbornness to not learn their language. Their unwillingness to change.
LOLHow is that so hard to understand?
Yeah, add that to a bazillion other things that are unfair. No one is saying it “should be” that way. It just is. You should have been taught Spanish in school, since it is the second most spoken language in the U.S.The problem is when I moved to my new location, suddenly its a requirement. I don't feel like it should be as I got along perfectly fine in CA. Now I have to try to find time to learn it and fork over my cash to learn a language to get a job that should not require it.
And you know, all the workers in that industry that I refer to... that dont know a spot of English when I come to ask them questions. How is that fair you all? So long as they know spanish, forget speaking english?! How do you answer that?
Yes, that's totally true.
In past when people argued politics I usually said 'do what the Germans do', and here you can see why:
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I think that may have more to do with Florida than with Spanish-speaking immigrants generally. You might find that you are dealing with people who consider themselves as in exile rather than as immigrants.
All of the ESL programs I am aware of (and I am in that business, as I said) are full to capacity with long waiting lists. However, I have never worked in Florida.
You said it:
“What about the people who move to my native country? Who are the truly stubborn ones?”
You said people that “move to my native country” are stubborn. But I’m glad to hear that you don’t think all immigrants are stubborn!
You should have been taught Spanish in school, since it is the second most spoken language in the U.S.
They don’t know a spot of English and you don’t know a spot of Spanish.
I know it sounds screwy to you, however, Spanish is not necessary to the construction field I belong to.
I worked it for 10 years in California. If there was any place it would be necessary, that would be one right? It's not necessary.
I move to Florida, and suddenly it's impossible. Though I have noticed one thing, but I wont mention it as that would only be my observation for this particular area and I cant say that it is total fact.
No, it isnt necessary when you have virtually no customer interaction. All you need is the boss to tell me where I need to go and what I need to do and how much time I have to do it in.
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This does not resolve your dilemma. Either Spanish is a requirement or it is not. If it is not a requirement then the reason you are not getting jobs has nothing to do with Spanish.
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