Or if amilinium be true those under the altar could be those like the woman seeking justice from adversaries.Here we see that the 'saints in heaven' are aware of time and attending things going on here on Earth.
They are told what the wait is about, and are encouraged to rest.
Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
They are waiting on more Christians being killed. Are you dying for Christ?
"For as many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Alleluia!
Forgive me...
Am I wrong here in the reading of your question and post, that you are accusing those who were slain for the word of God, because of their cry in heaven, in fact being sinners that don't deserve the white robes given to them, and that God's decision is unjust?Here we see that the 'saints in heaven' are aware of time and attending things going on here on Earth.
They are told what the wait is about, and are encouraged to rest.
Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
They are waiting on more Christians being killed. Are you dying for Christ?
"For as many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Alleluia!
Forgive me...
Am I wrong here in the reading of your question and post, that you are accusing those who were slain for the word of God, because of their cry in heaven, in fact being sinners that don't deserve the white robes given to them, and that God's decision is unjust?
As much as one might wish for an end to the speculations on end times the reality is that some groups of Christians exist primarily for the sake of speculating about end times. Some groups take part their name from prophetic speculation. And the book of Revelation is the main arena for the speculations; coupled with Daniel and parts of Ezekiel and Isaiah whole systems of speculative end times theology were created in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.Here we see that the 'saints in heaven' are aware of time and attending things going on here on Earth.
They are told what the wait is about, and are encouraged to rest.
Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
They are waiting on more Christians being killed. Are you dying for Christ?
"For as many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Alleluia!
Forgive me...
My apologies, I had your original post confused with someone who had later responded to you. Adding to your post though, I find the saints mentioned, to be receiving the garments as promised, white being synonymous with purity or possibly holy. see Zechariah 3:4 Joshua had his filthy garments removed and was given a change of raiment. As we are joined to Christ, spiritually speaking, that change of raiment is the white robes we are given and are what is referred to in Revelation. May I also suggest 1 Corinthians 15:53 stating, that as we are corruptible and mortal, we must put on immortality? God is holy. I would expect that in order to be in his presence, one would have to be holy or clean, and that is what the white robes are. Many times scriptures refer to God being made of light, and pure light is white, composed of all color. See his bow (rainbow) in the cloud in Genesis. While darkness itself, is the absence of light (See John chapter 1 - ...the darkness comprehended it not..) No one is truly worthy of what God has given us. That is what is referred to as grace and mercy, which I am thankful for. The saints who do cry, should not be accused though, as they are crying to the one who will avenge them, as he always does. And are given robes apparently as reward, just as he gives the crowns in other verses. He does and will punish the wicked. His judgment is righteous and true, and .."his rain falls on the just and unjust alike." (Matthew 5:45) Though it is noteworthy that the 24 elders earlier in Revelation, with their crowns, actually cast their crowns at his feet in worship, saying holy,holy, holy. I can't say I doubt the emphasis on how holy God really is. Also may I add in Revelation 20:4 the ones on the thrones are noted to have been given authority to judge. So all in all, I'm not sure where you were going with the original post, except that God is true and faithful to his word, and I can only second the statement, as it seems to be more that than an actual question, per se. Come to the table, there is a seat prepared. We will eat fruit of the tree of life which comes forth in all its seasons. We will drink of the water of life. There are many mansions in the Father's house prepared. Joy unspeakable is quite literally the only way to explain what it will be like.Absolutely not. You got that from the question. That is not what I expected you to see. Very interesting.
Forgive me...
My apologies, I had your original post confused with someone who had later responded to you. Adding to your post though, I find the saints mentioned, to be receiving the garments as promised, white being synonymous with purity or possibly holy. see Zechariah 3:4 Joshua had his filthy garments removed and was given a change of raiment. As we are joined to Christ, spiritually speaking, that change of raiment is the white robes we are given and are what is referred to in Revelation. May I also suggest 1 Corinthians 15:53 stating, that as we are corruptible and mortal, we must put on immortality? God is holy. I would expect that in order to be in his presence, one would have to be holy or clean, and that is what the white robes are. Many times scriptures refer to God being made of light, and pure light is white, composed of all color. See his bow (rainbow) in the cloud in Genesis. While darkness itself, is the absence of light (See John chapter 1 - ...the darkness comprehended it not..) No one is truly worthy of what God has given us. That is what is referred to as grace and mercy, which I am thankful for. The saints who do cry, should not be accused though, as they are crying to the one who will avenge them, as he always does. And are given robes apparently as reward, just as he gives the crowns in other verses. He does and will punish the wicked. His judgment is righteous and true, and .."his rain falls on the just and unjust alike." (Matthew 5:45) Though it is noteworthy that the 24 elders earlier in Revelation, with their crowns, actually cast their crowns at his feet in worship, saying holy,holy, holy. I can't say I doubt the emphasis on how holy God really is. Also may I add in Revelation 20:4 the ones on the thrones are noted to have been given authority to judge. So all in all, I'm not sure where you were going with the original post, except that God is true and faithful to his word, and I can only second the statement, as it seems to be more that than an actual question, per se. Come to the table, there is a seat prepared. We will eat fruit of the tree of life which comes forth in all its seasons. We will drink of the water of life. There are many mansions in the Father's house prepared. Joy unspeakable is quite literally the only way to explain what it will be like.
The Martyr's OathAm I wrong here in the reading of your question and post, that you are accusing those who were slain for the word of God, because of their cry in heaven, in fact being sinners that don't deserve the white robes given to them, and that God's decision is unjust?
Why do you say these are Saints in Heaven? Clearly these are the Beheaded of the Seven Year Tribulation period, who are indeed told to wait until the Beasts 42 Month reign of terror is over. The Church/Saints are indeed in Heaven, having been Raptured, we see them in Rev. ch. 7, they are the Saints that came out of the Great Tribulation (2000 years of the Church Tribulation).Here we see that the 'saints in heaven' are aware of time and attending things going on here on Earth.
They are told what the wait is about, and are encouraged to rest.
Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
They are waiting on more Christians being killed. Are you dying for Christ?
"For as many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Alleluia!
Forgive me...
Matthew 5:33-37 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
I will gladly die for Christ.Here we see that the 'saints in heaven' are aware of time and attending things going on here on Earth.
They are told what the wait is about, and are encouraged to rest.
Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
They are waiting on more Christians being killed. Are you dying for Christ?
"For as many as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Alleluia!
Forgive me...
That is what I always thought.........This is talking about the times Just before the retun of Jesus when many followers of jesus will be being killed for their belief in Him.. God has a number in mind..
What that number is only He knows.. When the crop is ripe then he shall return and gather in fruit..
You're forgiven. What'd you do?Forgive me...
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