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LCMS: Lutheran Service Book (LSB)

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Today my husband and I attended one of the workshops for the new Lutheran Service Book (LSB), the new hymnal/worship book for the LCMS. I was interested to hear if others have looked at this yet.

It was very interesting to see how they took different settings for the Divine Service from both of the previous hymnals, so that no matter which setting you were used to using, you would find something familiar.

The seminar took us through the hymnal, pointing out the different parts of it and showing what is familiar to users of LW or TLH, and what is new or expanded. We also got to sing a number of the hymns, of course, and used some of the worship tools as well. It includes not only the service of Baptism, but the services of Confirmation and Holy Matrimony, so the congregation can read along. It has a new Service of Prayer and Preaching, which is designed to be used as a framework to teach points from the catechism.

A lot of the old hymns are included, some of the with restored text from before the Lutheran Worship book (which had not-so-gently updated and modernized some beloved hymn text). Also included are about 100 new hymns -- either new texts to familiar tunes or completely new (to Lutheran hymnals). I was pleased with the much stronger focus on Gospel-based hymns, which was one of the decision points in looking at which hymns would be included in the hymnal. In addition, there are eleven reciting tones of various major and minor moods by which to sing the Psalms, which are set out with specific markings to follow the use of the tones if your congregation sings the Psalms.


My husband was particularly impressed with how the book has been developed to be used not only in corporate worship, but as a home worship tool. It includes many more prayers, lectionaries, and the Table of Psalms. It includes settings for Daily Office and for Corporate and Individual Confession and Absolution. It even has the Small Catechism (including the Table of Duties and the Christian Questions and Answers, but not the commentary).

Granted, there will be hymns that are beloved that were not included. The section on National songs has been pared down a bit, too. And some of the wordings here and there have been changed a little. The keys of some of the responses have been lowered. But all in all, it looks like they did a fairly good job of field-testing it and getting comments on its usability in a congregational setting.
 

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We went to the workshop a week ago. You metions most of the good points. I like that they put the prayers for worship back at the very front. Don't have to go looking for them, although by now I should be able to find them is LW. The page numbering is great also.

They also used a method of binding that will last longer. Just a few more of the neat things they did.

Yeah, I am disappointed in a few songs in there, but I have to remember that no hymnal is going to please everyone.
 
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Interesting tidbit. They had estimated/hoped for the whole series of hymnal workshops to reach about 9-12,000 people.

In the first few weekends of workshops, they've already had 9,000 people attend! There is GREAT interest in this new hymnal. It's rather exciting to think of.
 
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Today my husband and I attended one of the workshops for the new Lutheran Service Book (LSB), the new hymnal/worship book for the LCMS. I was interested to hear if others have looked at this yet.

It was very interesting to see how they took different settings for the Divine Service from both of the previous hymnals, so that no matter which setting you were used to using, you would find something familiar.

The seminar took us through the hymnal, pointing out the different parts of it and showing what is familiar to users of LW or TLH, and what is new or expanded. We also got to sing a number of the hymns, of course, and used some of the worship tools as well. It includes not only the service of Baptism, but the services of Confirmation and Holy Matrimony, so the congregation can read along. It has a new Service of Prayer and Preaching, which is designed to be used as a framework to teach points from the catechism.

A lot of the old hymns are included, some of the with restored text from before the Lutheran Worship book (which had not-so-gently updated and modernized some beloved hymn text). Also included are about 100 new hymns -- either new texts to familiar tunes or completely new (to Lutheran hymnals). I was pleased with the much stronger focus on Gospel-based hymns, which was one of the decision points in looking at which hymns would be included in the hymnal. In addition, there are eleven reciting tones of various major and minor moods by which to sing the Psalms, which are set out with specific markings to follow the use of the tones if your congregation sings the Psalms.


My husband was particularly impressed with how the book has been developed to be used not only in corporate worship, but as a home worship tool. It includes many more prayers, lectionaries, and the Table of Psalms. It includes settings for Daily Office and for Corporate and Individual Confession and Absolution. It even has the Small Catechism (including the Table of Duties and the Christian Questions and Answers, but not the commentary).

Granted, there will be hymns that are beloved that were not included. The section on National songs has been pared down a bit, too. And some of the wordings here and there have been changed a little. The keys of some of the responses have been lowered. But all in all, it looks like they did a fairly good job of field-testing it and getting comments on its usability in a congregational setting.

We are already using the LSB hymnal. One of our families donated 100 pew editions, Altar Book, and organist accompaniments. The pre-order went in at the end of June and the pew editions were received at the beginning of September.

We had already been using the liturgies from the hymnal exclusively since the first of September, so there was an easy transition to using the new hymnal. We have not yet received the organist accompaniments yet, so we are limited to those hymns that are available in LW or HS98 until they arrive.
 
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I thought you were ELCA?

Why would an ELCA church have a Lutheran Service Book workshop??

Perhaps there's hope for them, yet!!

I didn't say it was at my church. :p It's at the LCMS church in town, and I'm going because I'm an organist and collect hymnals. :p
 
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We're so far out in the boonies that we still use the 1941 edition of THe Lutheran Hymnal. I wasn't here when the 1982 edition came out so I don't know if they voted to keep the older hymnal. The other church I belonged to also had the 41 version.

I'm actually glad they did. I go to other Lutheran Churches occasionally and the use the newer version with the supplement and about halfway through the service they lost me. I even play the organ and it seemed like total chaos. Between jumping back and forth between the two and using the bulletin I finally just layed down everything and just listened and jumped in when I knew part of it.

My point is, what about new converted members who join or potentialy new members who try and join in on the worship, to loose them halfway through the service becasue they can't keep up? I would hate to think that we could probably loose members just becasue they couldn't keep up.

Again I reiterate, I am a liturgical organist and even when I can't keep up there should be some concern at to the complexity of the order of service in some churches. Allmost like it's a secret society and you have to get up to speed on the secret handshakes and memorize all the moves. How can anyone concentrate on the content of the service whith all the confusion?

I guess I overstated it but....... whatever.
 
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I agree, Radidio. Some liturgies can be VERY confusing. I was rather nervous about that when we first visited our current church. I had vague memories of Lutheran and Episcopal services where you had to juggle three books and turn back and forth from page to page, and I always felt SO lost. And in turn, unwelcome, because it was obvious that I "didn't belong."

Our church uses the '82 hymnal currently, but the liturgy is put into the bulletin. We don't follow along in the hymnal. In fact, it took me a number of years (and one of the musicians who is steeped in Lutheran liturgy and hymnody to point it out) to realize that we do the full-blown order of Matins whenever we have a fifth Sunday in the month. I just followed along in the bulletin, and knew that some Sundays we sang stuff that I was getting familiar with, and some Sundays I had to pay more attention because we didn't sing it as often.

So from a non-Lutheran-coming-in perspective, I think it is VERY useful to have one consolidated service book, rather than switching back and forth and being confusing. And I look forward to being able to follow the services in the book, rather than just in the bulletin. I like having a better understanding of where someething comes from, rather than just having it presented week by week.

(this from the woman who was able to turn right to the Christian Year pages in the hymnal when my Baptist-raised husband finally realized after four years that the colors of the altar cloths changed sometimes, and asked why. I have always enjoyed reading hymnals and service books, to see how people worship. I know I'm in the minority.)
 
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This is what is so wonderful about the Lutheran Service Book. It is laid out is a VERY visitor friendly format. Our members love the way they can follow it with virtually no effort. Our congregation used to use the Creative Worship series (blechhh!!!:sick: ) and had the liturgies printed in full in the bulletin. But since the beginning of December, we have been using the LSB liturgies exclusively. So when the hymnals arrived, there was no real transition... and the services in the hymnal are laid out just as they were printed in the bulletin.

Our secretary loves the new hymnal, too!:clap:
Much less copying , collating, folding, etc... ;)
 
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I was leafing through my copy last night at home, humming this song and that. I stopped dead and started laughing out loud.

Hymn 666 is "Fear Not, O Little Flock, The Foe".

Somebody had a sense of humor. I like that.


The presenter at the workshop we went to told us this hymn was placed there on purpose. Makes one appreciate the humor even more.
 
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I really enjoyed the workshop for the new hymnal. My complaint about the workshop was that it wasn't long enough! It was 3 hours long and went by so quickly. I enjoyed hearing our speaker who guided us through the book so that I can answer questions when someone asks...Why did they do THAT? ;)

I love the new hymnal!
 
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