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Loveaboveall

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With all of the discussions lately about what is sin, what is not, etc. I thought maybe we could get back to more important and weightier matters for a second!


Laodicea is the 7th of 7 churches which we believe speaks to us in here in the endtimes. Here is the text:

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:14-20

A couple thoughts:

1)There is no commendation
2)The rebuke does not deal with doctrine
3)They don't feel any need of spiritual things
4)Jesus is knocking on the door of their hearts hoping to come in.


Because there is no rebuke of doctrine this suggests that they have the KNOWLEDGE as set forth in the Bible. They are blessed with increased goods and thus have no desire to seek God for spiritual things, even though Jesus is knocking at the door of their hearts. Does this sound familiar to us? It should because this is a description of God's Church today which I hope all feel they are apart of.

What does this mean for us though? It means nothing to have the knowledge of correct doctrine if Jesus is on the outside looking in! God counsels us to buy gold tried in the fire. Are we embracing trials that come upon us? Are we praying for God to do whatever is necessary in our lives to prepare us to meet Him? Is Jesus in your heart? How do you know? How can anyone know?

John 15:1-10 Jesus speaks of His children being part of the vine and if they are a part of the vine they will produce fruit worthy of the vine. What is this fruit? Jesus, says if you love me keep my commandments. We know that this is impossible without the Holy Spirit within us, right. (See Romans 8:1-4) If the Holy Spirit is within us then we will also exhibit the fruits of the spirit in our lives.

In John 14:7,10 it says "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him...Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

These are very heavy words which speak volumes to the church of Laodicea. Jesus was our example to follow on this earth. He demonstrated to us how to live, which was in COMPLETE submission to the Father. Did you catch what Jesus said, all the words he spoke and all the works He did were by the Father working through Him. Jesus abided in the Father and the Father in Jesus. We are to abide in Jesus and He in us, thus all the words we speak and the things we do should be Jesus working through us. This is only possible if Jesus is inside shining out, not on the outside looking in!

If we are so busy bickering about doctrine, what sin is, EGW, and anything else... Are we just like the Laodiceans who had a hardened heart to Jesus. We know we have the truth and we rest in it just as the pharisees did with the law. Then we try to walk the fence to see how much we can get away with and still not break the law.

Shouldn't we instead, be seeking to soften our hearts and learn to listen to the Holy Spirits still small voice. Not every morning but every second of the day? What if in every thought and action you were connected with the Holy Spirit, Just think of how bright Jesus would shine out from your heart!

Just some thoughts for people to ponder. Feel free to discuss or give testimonies of how you have felt the Holy Spirit working in your life!
 

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Loveaboveall, you are to be commended for starting this thread. If SDAs really understood, and belived, the Laodiceain message, I'm quite certain we would be a different group with a different reputation in the world.

Since we are part of, and are living in, this time of Laodicea we have laid ourselves open to one of Satan's most effective tools. Its called DECEPTION by DIVERSION. It makes no mater what the diversion may be, even biblical topics and doctrin, it takes our eyes off of Christ and as a result we become involved with getting ready for Christ return instead of being ready to meet Him in the air.

Your brother in Christ,
Doc
 
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I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


We are told the Remedy!! are we going to follow this advice?

Gold = Faith, we need to buy faith... How? Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of God! We need to be feeding on the word of God. Man doesn't live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.... The just shall live by faith The word of God produces faith. Spend at least an hour a day in the word.

White Raiment = Righteousness of Christ, received as a gift by faith..
Isa 55:7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
REPENT and turn from our wicked ways, make confessions to God Cry out to our God and he will hear!
2Ch 7:14If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Humble ourselves and Pray

Eyesalve is the spirit which can open our blind eyes

Luk 11:13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

HOW? ASK, PRAY PRAY PRAY.... Global rain is coming up in a couple of days time, that'd be a good start http://www.operationglobalrain.com/

Here is a good example of what to do if we are blind....

Luke 18:35And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging:

36And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant.
37And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by.
38And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.
39And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace: but he cried so much the more, Thou son of David, have mercy on me.
40And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him,
41Saying, What wilt thou that I shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight.
42And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee. 43And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God.

CRY OUT ... that's what we need to be doing crying out for mercy, Jesus will hear, He will restore our sight and we will FOLLOW and GLORIFY GOD.. and when the people see this they will PRAISE GOD.


EGW QUOTE: "The careless and indifferent, who did not join with those who prized victory and salvation enough to perseveringly plead and agonize for it, did not obtain it, and they were left behind in darkness, but their numbers were immediately made up by others taking hold of the truth and coming into the ranks. Still the evil angels pressed around them, but they could have no power over them."
 
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Loveaboveall, you are to be commended for starting this thread. If SDAs really understood, and belived, the Laodiceain message, I'm quite certain we would be a different group with a different reputation in the world.

Since we are part of, and are living in, this time of Laodicea we have laid ourselves open to one of Satan's most effective tools. Its called DECEPTION by DIVERSION. It makes no mater what the diversion may be, even biblical topics and doctrin, it takes our eyes off of Christ and as a result we become involved with getting ready for Christ return instead of being ready to meet Him in the air.

Your brother in Christ,
Doc

:amen:

I don't have a lot of time this week (finals), but I think this is an excellent thread, and will jump in next week!

God bless,
~Lainie
 
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