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Language Used When Speaking About Disability

Is being careful with language all that important when talking about disability?

  • Yes, words can wound a person.

  • No, sticks and stones...words can't hurt.


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What do you guys think about how language is used when speaking about people who have disabilities?

Are there some words that should no longer be used (like the "N-word" is no longer used in mainstream English)?

Is it offensive when someone refers to an individual with a disability as "a handicap" or "a cripple"?

How important is it to use people-first language in every day speech? Does it matter, or should it really only be important in formal writing or speaking?

If you have a disability, what are your experiences with language concerning your own disability? How do you feel when people talk about disability in front of you? Is there a way it can be done without being offensive or degrading?

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kellygirl said:
Are there some words that should no longer be used (like the "N-word" is no longer used in mainstream English)?

Most crips I know are pretty much okay with the "C-word". The comparison with the "N-word" is interesting. For many crips, it's perfectly okay for crips to call themselves crips. As long as you're part of the club, there's no problem. The privilege of calling crips the C-word is also often extended to family and close friends. The C-word carries affection and respect in some of the ways it's being used in crip culture. Still, it's usually not a good idea for a stranger to use the C-word to refer to a disabled person. Many crips also enjoy using it to see the reactions of the politically correct folks.

There's a business cathering to the needs of disabled people with an online shop. It's called Grovergear. One of the items they sell is a grabbing tool for quadriplegics called "The Cripper". Politically correct folks would probably expect this to be a poor seller, but it's actually quite popular, in good part because of its name. Crips are rarely as politically correct as the people trying to protect them from words.

kellygirl said:
Is it offensive when someone refers to an individual with a disability as "a handicap"?

Justice Antonin Scalia often refers to disabled people as "handicaps". He also believes the Americans with disabilities act doesn't grant disabled people the right to sue states who don't comply with the ADA's provisions regarding accessibility to courts and voting places. The use of the word "handicap" to refer to me doesn't bother me anywhere as much as the mindset of the people who do so.

The regular variant "handicapped" is perfectly fine with me, mostly because I got used to it in the 70s, a time when it was still a perfectly acceptable word to use. But I know some crips don't like it. The online dictionnary Bartleby.com is much better than me to explain why:

Although handicapped is widely used in both law and everyday speech to refer to people having physical or mental disabilities, those described by the word tend to prefer the expressions disabled or people with disabilities. Handicapped, a somewhat euphemistic term, may imply a helplessness that is not suggested by the more forthright disabled. It is also felt that some stigma may attach to the word handicapped because of its origin in the phrase hand in cap, actually derived from a game of chance but sometimes mistakenly believed to involve the image of a beggar. The word handicapped is best reserved to describe a disabled person who is unable to function owing to some property of the environment. Thus people with a physical disability requiring a wheelchair may or may not be handicapped, depending on whether wheelchair ramps are made available to them.

kellygirl said:
How important is it to use people-first language in every day speech? Does it matter, or should it really only be important in formal writing or speaking?

I'm fine with both "handicapped person" and "person with a handicap". I'm also fine with both "disabled person" and "person with a disability". People-first language changes nothing to reality and very little to perception.

Sometimes I feel naughty and will object to the used of "handicapped" and "disabled" as labels, but only for grammatical reasons. Adjectives should not be made to suffer such loneliness. It's cruel and unfair. We should always make sure adjectives have with them a companion word.

kellygirl said:
If you have a disability, what are your experiences with language concerning your own disability?

I became a crip at a very young age (6). It was in the mid 70s. I got to experience the many labels and euphemisms used by politically correct folks to refer to me. I'm multi-lingual, so I even experienced this in a couple languages. It was interesting to see the various paths political correctness took in different cultures.

In english, handicapped and crippled were eventually replaced by disabled in the late 70s. I think we owe this to the many vietnam war veterans who came back home after having been seriously wounded. These men are among my favorite heroes. They managed to organise themselves in efficient ways, to have their voices heard and contributed in many ways to the improvement of the quality of life of all disabled individuals.

Then political correctness and people-first language came along. I stopped being a disabled person and became a person with a disability. Yay.

Then it became crazy. A slew of patronising, meaningless and cheesy labels for the disabled appeared in language. The classic is "Differently abled". Few disabled people use that one to refer to themselves. Another cheesy label that came from political correctness is the "temporarily able bodied" (Usually shortened to TABs in some disability advocacy groups) used to refer to non-disabled people. Most disabled persons don't really object to the use of these labels, as long as they're not forced to use them themselves. Sadly, this sometimes happen...

Time for a little biographical anecdote!

Last week, before choir practice, I was talking about a couple things with one of the other tenors. I was complaining about people who don't pick up after their dogs in the winter. That stuff sticks to wheelchair tires like gum. Grrrr! Anyway. My complaint sorta opened the way for the other tenor to ask me the traditional questions about my handicap, like how and when it happened and blah, blah, blah.

In his questions, he kept referring to me as "handicapped", a word I really, really, really have no problem with. Sadly, two older ladies overheard him use that word to refer to me and took offense to it. They even scolded him about it in front of me, told him it was disrecpectfull. I was in shock when they did this and just didn't know how to react. I was mostly afraid if I reacted, I would end up being impolite to them and I didn't want to do that.

Now, there's an invisible barrier between me and my new friend. There's a doubt that has been solidly planted in his mind. No matter how hard I try to convince him, he doesn't seem to be able to believe me when I say I'm fine with the word "handicapped". There's a disconfort. That's what these two ladies achieved by policing language. They took away from me the right to define boundaries for myself.

The ironic thing is that these two ladies, like most people who try to protect me from words, are also the ones who keep praising my courage and moral strenght. If they truly believe I'm that strong, why are they so over-protective?

There's a classic pun among quadriplegics, paraplegics and leg amputees: The fact I can't walk doesn't mean I can't stand up for myself.

I'm really not offended by words and labels. I sometimes have a hard time recognising myself in some of the latest ones people have come up with tho. Like many of my crip friends, I don't consider myself "physically challenged" or "mobility impaired". I'm a wheelchair racer/daredevil. My best time at a marathon is a few shameful seconds over two hours. I have fun with stairs, mall doors and escalators.

I don't mind any of the PC labels. I prefer disabled, paralysed or crip.

kellygirl said:
How do you feel when people talk about disability in front of you?

I'm an old crip. There's no more shame, disconfort or grieving going on about my disability on my part. It's typical among people who lived with their disability for most of their lives. We're pretty open about it and what it implies.

I think it's not a bad idea to be careful about the feelings of newly injured people however. It takes a couple years to grieve over that kind of loss. But that doesn't mean you should avoid any topic having to do with disability around them. It's truly a hard thing to balance and explain... Let me try with an exemple!

One of the things that newly injured persons find hard to deal with is the staring. There's two things that happen. Some people will stare at them for long periods of time, making them feel like freaks. Others will do the extreme opposite and try everything in their power to avoid looking at the disabled person, probably out of fear of offending her, running the risk of making them feel like they are invisible or don't exist. It's a weird phenomenon. The best thing would be to look at disabled people the same way we look at everybody else, but that's not always easy to do, even if only because of the difficulty of esablishing eye contact with someone in a wheelchair.

Avoiding discussing disability in front of newly injured persons is probably as bad as making disability the topic of every discussion in their presence. The best thing is probably to discuss it the same way you would if no one around was disabled. But I've been a crip for too long to remember how it feels to be newly injured, so I could be wrong...

kellygirl said:
Is there a way it can be done without being offensive or degrading?

Oh yeah. Crips discuss disability issues among themselves on a regular basis. Guys I play basketball with share a lot of information about their tests involving Cialis and Levitra. I had a nice long conversation about self-cathing with a newly injured guy yesterday evening. Nothing is really taboo among disabled people and their friends.

Condescending or pitying language tends to annoy many disabled persons tho. It stopped making me feel good to have my courage praised about 25 years ago. My life is not made of daily struggles and challenges. The biggest physical challenge I deal with on a daily basis is keeping my hands clean. That's a big problem when you spend a lot of time outside in a manual wheelchair. I don't think I'm more praise worthy than others simply because I brush my teeth from a wheelchair rather than standing up. All the stuff that's part of my life that some people think is so terrible actually started to feel "normal" to me a long time ago.

When you're dealing with older crips, maybe we should discuss disability as we would discuss lifestyles from different cultures with some of their members...

Bah. I think I'll put an end to my ramblings now. My post is now long enough to constitute a physical challenge to the eyes of most readers.

Happy lives to everyone!

:)
 
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I don't like feeling nervous that I might use the "wrong" word. In some ways I think people have allowed themselves to become way more sensitive than they need to be. If I were truly disabled (I have been before but through the wonders of modern medicine I'm not anymore) I would not mind being described as handicapped. It's acurate, and I don't see it as a derogatory term.
 
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Political correctness makes me sick. But then again so do manners, :p :D

I am personally unaware of the real definition of being offended. I can't be offended, nor can I understand how anyone can. To me, if you are getting offended, it's like I brought you down off your high pedistal down to my unworthy level by the words that I just said (either directed towards you, but rather just from them happening to graze your ears). Not you as in YOU but you as in the person getting offended. Like when cranberry mentioned that passerby ladies became 'offended' after they overheard (read eavesdropped on a conversation that was not their own) someone refer to a person in a wheelchair as being handicapped. That just boggles my mind... what pedistal did they fall off of that the word handicap singed their souls and made them fall off anyway?

Kinda off topic, my bad. I tend to be brutally honest, meaning I dont' sugar coat what I have to say. However, I dont' say things with the simple intention of hurting someone either. Why labels have become so important these days is beyond me. I'm a person. If I get hurt, I'm an injured person. If I become disabled, I am a disabled person. I don't know the definition of handicap, but I would be a handicap person if I had a handicap. I know a guy who got injured in a motorcycle accident and lost the use of his entire right arm. He still has it but he just can't use it. But he REFUSES to be referred to as handicap. He feels he can do things as good as or better than someone with 2 arms can. I beg to differ, while yes it's great he can do things that he used to be able to do easier with 2 hands, he cannot do them as good as or better than someone with 2 arms can, he just 'beleives' he can for prides sake. Pride can be such an ugly thing, though. I digress, he's a good guy, I am not trying to knock no him here, I really kinda dont' know what point I am trying to make here.

Oh, it would be my lack of understanding why people get offended so easily these days. I think if you get offended that I call you handicap, then you BEST not be parking in a handicap parking space, because those spaces ARE reserved for handicapped people, and if you are not handicapped, then you need to park your butt way out in BFE same as me :D

I say whatever comes to my mind, not in mean spirited intentions, and if you choose to get offended by what or how I say it (and yes, you do choose it, it's not a involuntary response to get upset, mad, or offended), then you need to look inside your own heart and figure out why you are letting something get you upset. I have been picked on and called things that were intened to hurt or offend me, but I chose not to let them upset me, looking to the Lord for my strength if I do start to allow myself to get worked up about it.


I apologize for my left rightedness of my post, it's late, I'm at work, and I'm tired, so I just type and type and type. :blush: :prayer:
 
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The reason why the term "handicapped" bothers me is because my life is not a sport such as golf or horseracing. Hoever, I recognize that people who use the term aren't aware of the derivation of the term and are trying to be polite and it doesn't bother me when they use it. Among ourselves, my other crippled friends and I refer to the placards we hang from the rearview mirrors of our cars so that we may use the parking spaces reserved for us as "handicr@pped placards." That doesn't mean we don't appeciate having those spaces made available to us, though. :)

I have a similar objection to the term "epilepsy" because it no long has real meaning as a medical term, and when it did, epileptics in many states in my country were routinely sterilized, but, again, most people are unaware of this, so I have no objection to being identified as an epileptic. Sometimes it's a good thing, because the term can carry a lot of hurtful garbage along with it, and when a person uses it, I can more easily find out of they believe any of those myths.

Most people are only trying to be courteous when they use various euphemisms, not politically correct.

Didymus: I have met no blind or deaf people who refer to themselves as anything but blind or deaf. :)
The terms "visually impaired" or "hearing impaired" should be reserved for those people who still have some useful degree of vision or hearing available to them.
 
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kellygirl said:
What do you guys think about how language is used when speaking about people who have disabilities?

Are there some words that should no longer be used (like the "N-word" is no longer used in mainstream English)?

Is it offensive when someone refers to an individual with a disability as "a handicap" or "a cripple"?

How important is it to use people-first language in every day speech? Does it matter, or should it really only be important in formal writing or speaking?

If you have a disability, what are your experiences with language concerning your own disability? How do you feel when people talk about disability in front of you? Is there a way it can be done without being offensive or degrading?

-Kelly


I actually hate being called crippled or handicapped.
 
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Just curious, how is crippled or handicapped more of a stereotype than physically challenged? All three are labels and are no more dimeaning than the other (IMO). :confused: In fact, I have more often heard the word 'cripple' be used to hurt someone moreso than they others, yet it seems that that is the prefered word of choice? Words boggle my mind, hehe. :hug:
 
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In my case, a lot of it has to do with my age; "crippled" as a term in itself was perfectly legitimate when I was young. In order to abuse it, people had to taunt you with it, usually in shortened form , i.e. "HEY, CRIP!"
There was nothing wrong with the expression "mentally retarded", either ...until someone in the schoolyard yelled, "YOU! RETARD"!

Shixel, words boggle my mind, too, sometimes. :)
Some of these euphemisms are long and sound stilted or cumbersome, so what do we do when we want to be courteous? It's a problem!

My feeling is that it's best to try to assertain the attitude of the person using any term, and if they mean no offence, we should try to take none. Tone of voice is extremely important; I've had people use all the right words to me while being unbearably patronizing.
Regional speech paterns should be kept in mind, too. My area's still a bit on the rural side, so terms like "physically challenged" are most likely to be used exclusively by social workers of one sort or another. People here are pretty used to "handicapped", and I can live with that.

What I dislike the way people check to see if my handicapped placard is current, and I dislike it even more when they conclude I shouldn't have one at all because I can walk for short distances. A surprizing number of people here think that handicapped spaces are reserved for only those who need wheelchairs and they'll take it on themselves to give you "what for" if they think you shouldn't be parking in a handicapped space.

I rode to the grocery store once with two friends of mine, a couple, who were also physically challenged, and the very large man who was an amputee was driving.
When we pulled up and he began to get out of the rather small car, his disability wasn't immediately noticeable, and a woman began to ball him out within an inch of his life for parking where he had. He believes in being as polite as he can and also has a sense of humor about such things, so he said nothing to her, but just continued to free his 6' 4" frame from the vehicle. When she finally saw him hop our on one leg and retrieve his crutches, she stopped short. Then she said "oh." and hurried into the store.
But the kicker is that it was his wife's car and handicapped placard; she had cancer and her disability didn't show at all.
Whenever this lady found herself in the same aisle with us, she'd duck her head and hurry to the next one. :D
 
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aimejl said:
it actually depends on how the words are used and said. They both can hurt people the same way. I just really don't like being called names.
See, Aime here can say in three sentences what it takes me three paragraphs to fail to convey. :)
 
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I'll go with Cranberry on this one. You have to let the individual set the boundary. Language that I use on a daily basis would probably offend most people, but around these parts it is common. I would never call my mother a cripple because it would offend her. My friend Bobby on the other hand takes no offense. Most often he uses the word crip, we are big on brevity around here.
 
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aimejl said:
it actually depends on how the words are used and said. They both can hurt people the same way. I just really don't like being called names.

I'll call you aime then. :)

Respecting people's right to define their boundaries for themselves is important to me. If that's how you feel about labels, I'll respect that. I also want to apologize to you if my post offended you in any way. That was not my intention.

I'll just try to explain why I'm so zealous in my politically incorrect stance on labels and use of the C-word. I'll make this quick I promise (Let's pretend I can do that).

I have unusual-looking legs. The right one is bigger and longer than the left one. My feet are always of different shades. If one is light pink, the other will be deep purple. It's like they can never agree on anything! Most men have wrists bigger than my left calf. I'm also covered with about six feet worth of surgical scars, about half of them being on my legs.

During childhood and my early teen years, I was incredibly self-conscious about them. I never showed my legs in public. Even on hot summer days with temperatures in the 90s I was wearing long pants to hide my legs. I stayed away from swimming pools because bathing suits didn't hide my legs. I hated summer.

One summer, when I was 16, I decided I had enough. I don't know why. I just switched from long pants to shirst and sandals in the summer. If people didn't like what they say, they were free to look elsewhere. That was the first summer I enjoyed.

Of course, I got weird comments back then about my legs and I still do today. It's usually goes along the lines of "It's great you're so at ease with your body". I take it as a compliment, even tho I admit to sometimes to reply with a "What do you mean" just to see the looks on people's face and see how they wiggle themselves out of that embarassing situation. I'm a bit naughty I guess. ;)

Anyway. To me, being self-conscious about labels and the C-word would feel a lot like wearing long pants in the summer. It would prevent me from enjoying life as much as I do now. I much prefer shorts and sandals.

I realise the path that took me to well-being and happiness is not perfect and appealing to everyone. I hope you'll find the best path for yourself if you haven't already. Everyone deserves happiness, especially you!

God bless
 
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Cranberry said:
I'll call you aime then. :)

Respecting people's right to define their boundaries for themselves is important to me. If that's how you feel about labels, I'll respect that. I also want to apologize to you if my post offended you in any way. That was not my intention.

I'll just try to explain why I'm so zealous in my politically incorrect stance on labels and use of the C-word. I'll make this quick I promise (Let's pretend I can do that).

I have unusual-looking legs. The right one is bigger and longer than the left one. My feet are always of different shades. If one is light pink, the other will be deep purple. It's like they can never agree on anything! Most men have wrists bigger than my left calf. I'm also covered with about six feet worth of surgical scars, about half of them being on my legs.

During childhood and my early teen years, I was incredibly self-conscious about them. I never showed my legs in public. Even on hot summer days with temperatures in the 90s I was wearing long pants to hide my legs. I stayed away from swimming pools because bathing suits didn't hide my legs. I hated summer.

One summer, when I was 16, I decided I had enough. I don't know why. I just switched from long pants to shirst and sandals in the summer. If people didn't like what they say, they were free to look elsewhere. That was the first summer I enjoyed.

Of course, I got weird comments back then about my legs and I still do today. It's usually goes along the lines of "It's great you're so at ease with your body". I take it as a compliment, even tho I admit to sometimes to reply with a "What do you mean" just to see the looks on people's face and see how they wiggle themselves out of that embarassing situation. I'm a bit naughty I guess. ;)

Anyway. To me, being self-conscious about labels and the C-word would feel a lot like wearing long pants in the summer. It would prevent me from enjoying life as much as I do now. I much prefer shorts and sandals.

I realise the path that took me to well-being and happiness is not perfect and appealing to everyone. I hope you'll find the best path for yourself if you haven't already. Everyone deserves happiness, especially you!

God bless

actually my name is Jaime. aimejl is just my screen name it is my name in pig latin. Your post didn't offend me in any way , I was just trying to get my opinion out. I kinda know how you feel with your legs, I wear leg braces to walk and I don't wear many shorts. I have several scars from sergeries on my legs back and belly. I am still trying to find myself and what I really want with my life. I hope to hear more from you and everyone else. God Bless

Jaime :wave:
 
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I think that every person on this planet earth has at least one imperfection about them. So the real question is, what is normal?

Plan 9: I dont' know why people have to butt into other people's business, maybe it's to hide their own imperfections by amplifying others. There ARE quite few people who disregard the handicap parking spots whom aren't legally aloud to use them, so I guess in a sense that lady had good intentions, but she is not an officer of the law, and if someone is parking in that spot illegaly (not illegitimately) then the police should handle it, not her. My grandpa (before he died) used to have one of those placards, and this one boggles my mind to this day. He had diabetes, and though he could walk and talk pretty well (up until the end), he had the placard because he was legally blind. I am still to this day wondering how a legally 'blind' person was given a automobile placard to drive his car? :D

Aimejl: I agree, I don't like being called names either, in fact, my name is Dan, but I've been called other things.

Cranberry: I think it's great you decided to stop worrying about what others think and enjoy summers now. I have a friend who is 480 pounds. He always used to wear long pants and a oversized shirts because of his self esteem.. I finally talked him into shedding a few pounds (of clothing), and enjoying the weather as you did. Now he wears shorts even in the winter time, :D I think some people think things like fat or scars are gross, and I know there is a time and place to NOT expose those things, but if that is gross, then why do people get all googly over a baby with snot hagging off it's face, drool all down it's face, food on it's clothing, and/or vomit from it's last explosion? On the other hand, I used to work with a guy who had fleculitis (spelling?) that made his skin flake and peel and fall off all the time. In that case, he used to come work unprotected, and his skin would flake off and get all over things (and he didn't bother to medicate, didn't see the need). Now in that case, he should cover up as it effects others around him. Scars are no big deal to expose (some wome even find them to be sexy), but if you had open sores and stuff, you probably would not want to wak around exposing that kind of thing, and actually for health reasons, I would think.

zzzzzzzzziiiipppppppppppppp If I don't zip my mouth shut I'll end up writing a novel. My 'handicap' is I love to jabber :p
 
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it helps when peole use words that may sound offense to look into their--the people s-background. for example my uncle buck used the word [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] to mean a lazy shiftless person who could not be trusted. it had nothing to do wiht color. in fact he was close to a couple of black co-workers. uncle buck,grandpa and uncle jim were products of their time and raising. they would have been very upset to be called racists. ok this has nothing to do with handicaps but i hope you get my drift.
 
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Plan 9 said:
There was nothing wrong with the expression "mentally retarded", either ...until someone in the schoolyard yelled, "YOU! RETARD"!
"Mentally retarded" is still ok to use isn't it??:confused: That's one of the terms used to qualify a child for for special education in the state of illinois. Although we usually 'nice-it-up' by saying "MR" for short instead of "retarded".
 
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it is in Ny also.actually my daughter has birth brain damage and is not a downs person but she had to be classsified mr to get the special ed she needed. of course some people tell me i am in denial but her iq scores are really weird. she can t do some simplew things but her problem soloving skills are age apporiate.
 
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