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Toney

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Here is a statement (2002) by Bishop Punt, Amsterdam, who held discernment authority for these apparitions:

"...And the signs of our times are dramatic. The devotion to the Lady of All Nations can help us, in my sincere conviction, in guiding us on the right path during the present serious drama of our times, the path to a new and special outpouring of the Holy Spirit, Who alone can heal the great wounds of our times."

I ask you to please pray this devotion for Our Lady's intentions. :prayer:
 

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Toney, I don't understand why people seem to have difficulty with the concept that God loves all people equally. (He cannot do therwise.) That Our Mother is the Mother of All the Living is a simple corollary from Revelation. I think the reason this devotion is not more widespread is simply that most Catholics have lost much of their missionary spirit. Perhaps that is due to the chaos of the last 35 years.
 
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Thanks, PeterPaul. I had second thoughts about text from one of the messages that I included in the OP, although the apparitions are approved. If someone wants more information, a link is provided to the official website. These apparitions are without serious controversy, even the part about "Lady of All Nations" who "once was Mary," is easily explained and the site provides such explanation. It is hard for the nay-sayers to grab hold of any of this devotion.

With proclamation of the Fifth Marian Dogma in the forefront, I believe the relationships between Lady of All Nations, Co-redemptrix, and the triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart as foretold at Fatima is certainly worth reading about and justification for the OP.
 
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This excerpt from the site struck me as profoundly pertinent:

This coredemptive, mediating role of Mary is not a human invention, it is a divine plan, deeply willed by the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. By solemnly proclaiming this dogma, the Church gives her free consent to the Redemption and glorifies God Himself in fully recognizing his plan of salvation. This solemn proclamation enables Mary to fully unfold the preeminence of her titles and universal motherhood and to bestow ‘grace, redemption and peace’ to humanity and the world. It is the road to a new ‘Cana’, enabling Mary to touch her Son’s heart and bring about a unique outpouring of the Holy Spirit in our dramatic times. It is the gate to a new evangelization and to true ecumenism in the Third Millennium.
 
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ShannonMcCatholic

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Just wanted to say, though I might be wrong, that these apparitions are accepted by the local Bishops-- but have not been officialy approved by the Church.

Don't get me wrong- I believe in Mary as the New Eve, I believe in the 5th Marian Dogma movement- I believe that peace will reign if we give all to Mary to take sweetly to her Son. I just believe that in these times when Satan seems to be everywhere- it is right and good to defer to Church authority. Most things point to these aparritions being authentic- but the Church hasn't officially said as much-- though, again, I might be wrong....
 
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ShannonMcCatholic

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Finding the above took about 90 seconds of research.

You know, what that insinuates is just wretchedly arrogant. In another thread you also back handedly attacked me. I really take offense to the way you do that and then accuse me of being contentious, or starting an argument.

Now I, did research this particular apparition- and the research was that it was supported by the Bishop but not stamped "approved" in the way of La Salette, or Knock, or Lourdes or Fatima... the tone of which I think is pretty clear in my previous post. Wht the heck do you have such a problem with someone being wary of purported supernatural phenomena?? If nothing new can be added to the faith- then not giving attention to "apparitions" until they are officially approved- should not bring us any harm or leave us in peril for not heeding "the message". There are lots and lots of approved Marian apparitions that the faithful might choose from in order to be edified. Why is it so important that this particular agenda be pushed??
 
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I think apparitions can be helpful in leading people to Christ. Of course scrutiny is important when reading the message, but I think Toney was not in the wrong to post it. After all, it is information for Catholics, and we should be aware of anything going on.

Toney, post on my friend!
 
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ShannonMcCatholic

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I don't have any problem with him posting it-this is
something pertinent to Catholics-- but to do so and then be upset if all don't fully embrace it...

Toney has now removed his post to me - as it seems to be wary and proceed cautiously is to be "absurd".

I just wonder why after days of arguments about Marian Apparitions this seemed like the right time... perhaps so that if one hesitates they can be dismissed....
 
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