KoRn?

[sellingsell]

Anyone here listen to KoRn? I love them. They're basically amazing.

 

[radhead]

If this is the band I'm thinking of I bought one of their CD's about a year or two ago. It was the most recent at the time (maybe their latest). Apparently one of their founding members became a Christian and left the band.

The album cover, if I am interpreting it correctly, seems to be a message from the band to this ex-member (or all Christians in general). I think it shows him waking up from his moment of physical death into the afterworld, and finding himself in a place much different than the Christian faith would have anyone believe.

What do you think?

 

[sellingsell]

Well, the bandmember, head became basically a judgemental jerk. He told them how they were all going to Hell and such. Now, is that what a christian should do? I think that he had a very skewed religion of God, and wasn't really a christian.

You have to realize that this isn't a Christian band. Although some of they're songs DO infact mention God (Souvenir for one), they don't focus on God. They were angry with the church, not God persay. The album you're thinking of is See you on the other side (and its amazing).

If I were in a band, and a member started telling me how sinful I was and how I was going to hell, I would be angry with the people that told him this. It wasn't a shot towards God. It was a shot towards Head. Thats all.

So what if the cover says something? Woohoo. Its the cover. Some people thought that the cover of the Black Album by Metallica was evil or something. Its a peice of paper. It means nothing.

The music is great. Thats all.

 

[radhead]

It's a disturbing picture whatever you think about it. I listen to my share of non-Christian and even anti-Christian bands so I'm not criticizing anyone for listening to them. I'm not proud of this fact, however. I consider it a struggle with sin.

The cover shows the person as a child (which is what Christians are, ironically). We are told to be like children. And we are children of God.

However, the band seems to be saying that our faith is nothing more than childhood fantasy. And we (Christians) will all discover this shocking "truth" in the afterlife.

I wouldn't say it's "nothing" because it's a piece of paper. A piece of paper carries symbols, words and ideas. A page in the Bible is a piece of paper, however, I don't think that you would say it's "nothing."

 

[sellingsell]

Personally, I think that you're over-analyzing the cover. It was a shot at Head. Thats it.

KoRn, as a band, is amazing. Jon Davis is an excellent songwriter and has a great voice. Munky is a really good guitar player and Fieldy rocks. I've neve really cared what their covers looked like. Its just the cover.

 

[Seeker of the Truth]

This band has really kept one of my friends from knowing the Lord. He's in love with Korn and will not give 'em up for God.

The lyrics in the songs aren't what I would call "Christian appropriate", but, it's your choice whether or not you want to listen to 'em.

I don't...anymore.

 

[foo-oswald]

KoRn, as a band, is amazing.

I wouldn't call them "amazing". If you think they're amazing, I would encourage you to broaden your musical palette. Their studio albums are always well-recorded, but they're awful live, and, being a musician myself, that's what makes or breaks a band for me.

Jon Davis is an excellent songwriter and has a great voice.

"Jon Davis...has a great voice"?!?!? Have you ever heard him sing live? He's almost as bad as Amy Lee from Evanescence, or that 'bag from Hoobastank.

Jon Davis's voice is marginal, at best, in the studio (where all of his vocal shortcomings can be electronically eliminated), and completely lame live. By "lame", I mean he's perpetually flat or sharp, his voice has none of the power you hear on CD, and he always sounds like he's being choked while he's singing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know this is all subjective, but c'mon, to say he has a "great voice"...

I've neve really cared what their covers looked like. Its just the cover.

Cover art is never just arbitrarily selected by the band. It's just as much a statement as the lyrics to their songs are.

You said so yourself when you stated that the cover for See You On The Other Side was a "shot at Head", which totally contradicts your earlier statements that a cover is "just the cover", "just a piece of paper", and "it doesn't mean anything".

It appears from the tone of your posts that, after radhead's comments about the cover, you feel like you need to justify the fact that you like Korn.

Personally, I'm not a Korn fan, and I don't think Korn is taking "a shot towards God" either, but don't fool yourself into thinking that cover art is just random and meaningless . At the very least, that's a slap in the face to the artist that worked with the band to create it...

Just for clarification, I'm not one of those fundamentalists trying to tell you that it's "a sin" to listen to Korn. I'm just saying that there are bands out there that are so much better than Korn, like Killswitch Engage, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, and the Foo Fighters. Heck, even Slipknot. Those guys make great albums and can throw down live.

 

[Chrome]

foo, you will always be my role-model here at the forums...

but anyway, needless to say i agree. I pretty much have the same messge.

I remember when i liked nu-metal, i though it was so hard and heavy, i even went as far to think it was death metal! (don't hate me guys!), but after i was exposed to far better bands, ones that can actually be considered metal, were my eyes opened to how bad popular radio bands actually are.
Its like a green day fan, who thinks they are the pinnacle of punk, is shown some social distortion
or someone who is conviced Cradle of Filth is kvlt and tr00 is smacked with some Emperor or Dissection.

but hey, if power chords, cliche image, and psuedo-metal are your thing, go ahead.

 

[DrBeatnik]

I'm not a fan of the band, but many of my friends are. I'm not really sure what it is, I just can't enjoy their music. It might be because Hip Hop and Metal are just such a bad mixture.

A lot of people get into Metal through Nu-Metal these days, and that's the case with a few of my friends. I went from early hard rock bands like AC/DC and Led Zeppelin, then into traditional Heavy Metal like Black Sabbath, and then a few of my friends helped me grow from there.

 

[GuitarHero2]

KoRn first 2 albums were pretty cool and they had a few other additional songs I liked from the rest of their releases. I'll take Carcass, In Flames, Cannibal Corpse, Emperor, or Dissection and most real metal bands over them easilt though.

 

[Rosa Mystica]

"Jon Davis...has a great voice"?!?!? Have you ever heard him sing live? He's almost as bad as Amy Lee from Evanescence, or that 'bag from Hoobastank.

Not to derail the thread, but Amy Lee has improved *immensely* in her live performances. I saw her recently, and she was *fabulous*. In all honesty, I was expecting her to suck- and this is coming from an Evanescence fan.

As for Korn, I'm pretty much indifferent to them. I like a couple of their songs, but don't really seek them out as such. I wouldn't say Jon Davis is "amazing" vocally, but I don't have enough information to insult his singing, either.