I did you and your claims that the Bishop of Rome never existed and never had Primacy among Bishops.
You claim you know soo much of Christian History, so it's awfully interesting for you to be ignorant of this fact.
I"m assuming you also do not think Peter was First Among Equals as well.
Your ability to NOT understand a simple point perplexes me.
My view or any protestants view on Peter's position is irrelevant...
Back to the discussion. As you well know, what I am asking for is not at all unreasonable. This goes back 1700 years as Rome began to assert itself in a way that other Bishops did not agree with. Don't try to frame this as some kind of radical statement. What I am asking for is at the core of the Orthodox/Catholic split, is it not? At the core of this debate, is my request that Catholicism prove its claim of Papal supremacy. Everyone knows this is the primary issue that caused a massive split 1000 years ago. This is not a Simon invention. Reasonable people disagreed then and now. Do you think the Orthodox church is absurd as well for not believing this? I keep mentioning the Orthodox because most scholars in this particular area of the Papacy tend to be Catholic or Orthodox.
For most Protestants, who are content with a simplistic petra/petros argument, they never investigate further.
This is not a Simon argument. It is a debate that has raged on for 1700 to 1800 years, This stance of Catholicism must be proven. It has no room for development by their own decrees:
I can show you quotes that show how the early Church viewed this. I can provide quote after quote of how they viewed this. Remember, this doctrine does not develop according to their beliefs but has always been there.
First Vatican Council
"That which the Prince of Shepherds and great Shepherd of the sheep, Jesus Christ our Lord, established in the person of the blessed Apostle Peter to secure the perpetual welfare and lasting good of the Church, must, by the same institution, necessarily remain unceasingly in the Church; which, being founded upon the Rock, will stand firm to the end of the world. For none can doubt, and
it is known to all ages, that the holy and blessed Peter, the Prince and Chief of the Apostles, the pillar of the faith and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour and Redeemer of mankind, and lives presides and judges,
to this day and always, in his successors the Bishops of the Holy See of Rome, which was founded by him and consecrated by his blood. Whence, whosoever succeeds to Peter in this See, does by the institution of Christ himself obtain the Primacy of Peter over the whole Church"