I want to know about the rapture. I've heard all the theory's, read and heard preaching but still I am confused. How do we know for sure that it is real? I want to believe in it so much but a part of me wonders. God told us to watch out so that we wouldn't be deceived. Also, that there will be people that will teach false teachings. Where I am at... is this... I can see how both arguments could be true. So... How then do I know know where to believe? Are we in the tribulation? I am saved, and I know that no matter what I will be with Jesus. That is the most important thing, but I've heard preachers say the rapture is a lie. Then I hear it is true. They both back up their views with scripture and fight each other with God's word. It just sounds so confusing to me.
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I have read that... but is gathering the elect us? Is that the rapture? I have heard so many different views.. which is why I was confused.
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Have you asked a chaplain on the ask a chaplain forum? They have alot of knowledgeable people on that forum. When you ask the question it can take 48 hoirs before you see it because they view then post. But yes rapture is when God comes for His children. What an awsome day that will be hu?
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I just joined I believe yesterday lol. I have not really had the change to explore this site yet.
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The words used in the passage could help you out:
harpázō
Thayer's Definition
From a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications): - catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).
(Ultra-Modern versions might say we meet him in a cloud chat room.)
Meet Him in the air=aḗr "From ἄημι aēmi (to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire; by analogy to blow) Compare G5594 : psýchō --forced respiration, to wax cold
As with most of scriptures, I think the gaps in information are intentional -- they lead us to find out more. God wants us continually seeking and finding, knocking and asking. Once we think we know everything, we give up and sit back in our easy chairs, acting like we know it all.
Another thing to consider -- were there other people in the Bible who were said to have been caught up?
Enoch was escorted to the galaxy realm, and shown how things looked out there.
Ezekiel 1:4 describes a rushing wind from a craft.
Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: So the spirit (word also means wind) took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.
(Like a cloud)
The rapture might look different than a billion people floating up in the air at once.
A Youtube ministry posted a dream about the rapture, where they were confused that they saw a sleigh. They seemed to feel comforted by this more controlled mode of exit -- a vehicle of transport arriving to pick him up, instead of leaving him out on his own to fly to who-knows-where.
Just some things to think about. There is so little information on it, it's hard to know what to believe -- but God likes us to be ready for strange things, so prophecies help us out with events that would throw us for a loop.
God is good -- just not always doing what we expect He will.
harpázō
Thayer's Definition
- to seize, carry off by force
- to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly
- to snatch out or away
From a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications): - catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
Clouds=nephélē, the same word used for the cloud that led the Israelites in the wilderness. Strong's defines the word as "properly cloudiness" which would be more like a fog. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
(Ultra-Modern versions might say we meet him in a cloud chat room.)
Meet Him in the air=aḗr "From ἄημι aēmi (to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire; by analogy to blow) Compare G5594 : psýchō --forced respiration, to wax cold
Matthew 24:22-29
Unless those days had been cut short no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short
For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED... "31 And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
Here it says the tribulation precedes Jesus' return, but it said sky, not land.Unless those days had been cut short no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short
For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED... "31 And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
As with most of scriptures, I think the gaps in information are intentional -- they lead us to find out more. God wants us continually seeking and finding, knocking and asking. Once we think we know everything, we give up and sit back in our easy chairs, acting like we know it all.
Another thing to consider -- were there other people in the Bible who were said to have been caught up?
Enoch was escorted to the galaxy realm, and shown how things looked out there.
Ezekiel 1:4 describes a rushing wind from a craft.
Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: So the spirit (word also means wind) took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.
(Like a cloud)
The rapture might look different than a billion people floating up in the air at once.
A Youtube ministry posted a dream about the rapture, where they were confused that they saw a sleigh. They seemed to feel comforted by this more controlled mode of exit -- a vehicle of transport arriving to pick him up, instead of leaving him out on his own to fly to who-knows-where.
Just some things to think about. There is so little information on it, it's hard to know what to believe -- but God likes us to be ready for strange things, so prophecies help us out with events that would throw us for a loop.
God is good -- just not always doing what we expect He will.
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