Knowing If You're Predestined?

[AJB4]

Hey GrinningDwarf! Remember me? I'm the loaded question guy! Anyway:

I have some question:

1) Are you predestined if

a) You accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross?
b) You accept the doctrine of Calvinism?

Because if all you had to do was accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, then most Christians on earth would be predestined, so.....in order to know if you're predestined, do you have to, at some point, accept the doctrine of Calvinism and predestination.

Thanks!

 

[GodsElect]

I have found that many who claim to be Christian do not know about the Doctrines of Grace. When in fact, all throughout the Bible in which they claim to believe in, it talks about God's eternal purpose of His election of the saints and the doctrine of predestination. Those who don't believe that God had foreordained all things that shall come to pass, including who will and who will not believe through His electing Grace, are simply denying the Sovereignity of God himself. Simply saying that He sits and waits in Heaven and does not know whom will "choose" Him and who wiil not. Implying that it is up to man's wicked, sinful, spiritually dead heart to make a free will decision to come. I ask you, how does one who is dead make any other decision for himself but to be dead? If God has odained for you to believe, you WILL believe! whether you know or not, it has been predestined from the foundation of the world. What those people are also saying that the Great creator who created the Heavens and the earth, did so without a plan of the outcome. What a powerless God that would be!!! Study these Doctrines of Grace my friend, may the scriptures, by the Holy Spirit, reveal the truth to your heart.


Rom.8:28 - Rom.8:33 (NKJ) 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.

Eph.1:4 - Eph.1:5 (NKJ) 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

 

[GodsElect]

so.....in order to know if you're predestined, do you have to, at some point, accept the doctrine of Calvinism and predestination.

YES. You don't have to do anything to accept. You will accept it, If you trust fully in God's word. It WILL be revealed to you through the scriptures. You will delight in it. It WILL find a resting place in your heart.

 

[heymikey80]

Hey GrinningDwarf! Remember me? I'm the loaded question guy! Anyway:

I have some question:

1) Are you predestined if

a) You accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross?
b) You accept the doctrine of Calvinism?

Because if all you had to do was accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, then most Christians on earth would be predestined, so.....in order to know if you're predestined, do you have to, at some point, accept the doctrine of Calvinism and predestination.

"Sooner or later you're going to find that there's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path."

At the end your posting jumps to the issue of knowing.

People are shown to be predestined if they rely on Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins.

Those who understand the doctrine of predestination, described in Scripture, know God's entirely at work in their turning to rely on Jesus.

Other people may also know or feel such a thing implicitly, that God has moved in them and not they of themselves. Such a thing certainly doesn't require accepting a "second Gospel" of predestination. People are predestined. Those who study how predestination works knows people are predestined, whether they know it or not.

Another example. You have kids. As a parent you find out your kids are doing wrong by reading the signs of embarrassment all over their faces. Do they know those signs? No; but they still did what they're embarrassed about. It's the same way with predestination: you see the signs of forgiveness, of faith, and so the person is predestinated.

 

[GrinningDwarf]

Hey GrinningDwarf! Remember me? I'm the loaded question guy! Anyway:

I have some question:

1) Are you predestined if

a) You accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross?
b) You accept the doctrine of Calvinism?

Because if all you had to do was accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, then most Christians on earth would be predestined, so.....in order to know if you're predestined, do you have to, at some point, accept the doctrine of Calvinism and predestination.

Thanks!

Hey, 'kid'! Welcome back!!

Just calling it like I see it....

I don't think 'formal' Calvinists have a lock on heaven. I think there will be a lot of non-Calvinists in heaven who don't see the logical fallacy of their thinking until they get to heaven. These would be the folks who say they do have to choose before they are regenerated, but don't understand that this view actually makes 'choosing' a 'work'.

So...to answer your question...'yes' to #1 and 'not necessarily; it depends upon how far the person goes' to #2.