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JW and How is one Saved?

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According to the Watchtower Society, the plan of salvation for the Great Crowd is to go to meetings, go out in service, be good, work hard and then HOPE you will not be destroyed by God at the battle of Armageddon. Where does the Watch Tower or Jehovah Witness find that in the bible? There is only one way of salvation mentioned in the Bible!

First, Jesus says His the ONLY WAY!

John14:6 says: Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Second, there is not a way for the 144,000 and another way for the Great Crowd. The fact that Jesus is the ONLY WAT to salvation is crystal clear throught the New Testament. Let’s take a look at the scriptures.

Acts 16:31 - And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

John 3:16 - For this is how God loved the world: He gave his uniquely existing Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.

Romans 6:23 –“…the free gift of God is eternal life in union with the Messiah[o] Jesus our Lord.

The true gospel is that we are all sinners and need to be forgiven of our sin. This is contrary to what Jehovah’s Witness teach as their doctrine. They teach that there is this God named Jehovah that is so consumed with Himself that all He wants “His people” to do is go door to door to tell people that God’s name is Jehovah. The problem with this belief is it is not found in the New Testament.

The gospel as found in the New Testament is explained by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

1 Corinthians 15:1 - Now I’m making known to you, brothers, the gospel that I proclaimed to you, which you accepted, on which you have taken your stand,

1 Corinthians 15:2 - and by which you are also being saved if you hold firmly to the message I proclaimed to you—unless, of course, your faith was worthless.

1 Corinthians 15:3 - For I passed on to you the most important points that I received: The Messiah died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

1 Corinthians 15:4 - he was buried, he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures—and is still alive!—

This is the true gospel tha makes a difference. It is so vitally important that we proclaim the true gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 thjat Paul repeats this tin Galations Chapter 1.

Galations 1:6 - I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of the Messiah[a] and, instead, are following a different gospel,

Galations 1:7 - not that another one really exists. To be sure, there are certain people who are troubling you and want to distort the gospel about the Messiah.

Galations 1:8 - But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you[d] a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that person be condemned!

Galations 1:9 - What we have told you in the past I am now telling you again: If anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that person be condemned!

We cannot get much clearer. One Gospel and only one Biblical salvation. “Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). Period!

Now what I find interesting and exciting, is when you accept Jesus Christ, the Bible says that you become a child of God, an heir with Christ. Bible says:

Romans 8:17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Galatians 3:29 - If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

According to the Watchtower Society , none of that applies to the Great Crowd. In Jehovah Witness theology that only applies to the 144,000. So we must ask you, where is the plan of salvation for the members of the Great Crowd?

If there is no plan of salvation for the Great Crowd? This is the plan of salvation for the Great Crowd, the Witness really only have two choices.

Choice Number 1: There is no plan of salvation for the Great Crowd, so you are damned, doomed or lost.

Choice Number 2: The plan of salvation for the Great Crowd is the same plan of salvation for the 144.000. If that is the case then your destination must also be the same.

The bottom line is this, there is only one plan of salvation and that is believing on Jesus. When you do that, you will live forever with your Lord and Savior in heaven or wherever He goes. Now that is the true gospel. The only one.
 

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Jehovah's witnesses manage to find a way to keep the 144,000 and the great crowd under the paradigm of "saved by grace" despite the apparent disjunction implied by the division between the two "sheep folds". I don't think it works objectively speaking but subjectively it seems to work for those within the organisation. Why not ask a JW next time they visit your home?

According to the Watchtower Society, the plan of salvation for the Great Crowd is to go to meetings, go out in service, be good, work hard and then HOPE you will not be destroyed by God at the battle of Armageddon. Where does the Watch Tower or Jehovah Witness find that in the bible? There is only one way of salvation mentioned in the Bible!

First, Jesus says His the ONLY WAY!

John14:6 says: Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Second, there is not a way for the 144,000 and another way for the Great Crowd. The fact that Jesus is the ONLY WAT to salvation is crystal clear throught the New Testament. Let’s take a look at the scriptures.

Acts 16:31 - And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

John 3:16 - For this is how God loved the world: He gave his uniquely existing Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.

Romans 6:23 –“…the free gift of God is eternal life in union with the Messiah[o] Jesus our Lord.

The true gospel is that we are all sinners and need to be forgiven of our sin. This is contrary to what Jehovah’s Witness teach as their doctrine. They teach that there is this God named Jehovah that is so consumed with Himself that all He wants “His people” to do is go door to door to tell people that God’s name is Jehovah. The problem with this belief is it is not found in the New Testament.

The gospel as found in the New Testament is explained by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

1 Corinthians 15:1 - Now I’m making known to you, brothers, the gospel that I proclaimed to you, which you accepted, on which you have taken your stand,

1 Corinthians 15:2 - and by which you are also being saved if you hold firmly to the message I proclaimed to you—unless, of course, your faith was worthless.

1 Corinthians 15:3 - For I passed on to you the most important points that I received: The Messiah died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

1 Corinthians 15:4 - he was buried, he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures—and is still alive!—

This is the true gospel tha makes a difference. It is so vitally important that we proclaim the true gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 thjat Paul repeats this tin Galations Chapter 1.

Galations 1:6 - I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of the Messiah[a] and, instead, are following a different gospel,

Galations 1:7 - not that another one really exists. To be sure, there are certain people who are troubling you and want to distort the gospel about the Messiah.

Galations 1:8 - But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you[d] a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that person be condemned!

Galations 1:9 - What we have told you in the past I am now telling you again: If anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that person be condemned!

We cannot get much clearer. One Gospel and only one Biblical salvation. “Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). Period!

Now what I find interesting and exciting, is when you accept Jesus Christ, the Bible says that you become a child of God, an heir with Christ. Bible says:

Romans 8:17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Galatians 3:29 - If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

According to the Watchtower Society , none of that applies to the Great Crowd. In Jehovah Witness theology that only applies to the 144,000. So we must ask you, where is the plan of salvation for the members of the Great Crowd?

If there is no plan of salvation for the Great Crowd? This is the plan of salvation for the Great Crowd, the Witness really only have two choices.

Choice Number 1: There is no plan of salvation for the Great Crowd, so you are damned, doomed or lost.

Choice Number 2: The plan of salvation for the Great Crowd is the same plan of salvation for the 144.000. If that is the case then your destination must also be the same.

The bottom line is this, there is only one plan of salvation and that is believing on Jesus. When you do that, you will live forever with your Lord and Savior in heaven or wherever He goes. Now that is the true gospel. The only one.
 
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Jehovah's witnesses manage to find a way to keep the 144,000 and the great crowd under the paradigm of "saved by grace" despite the apparent disjunction implied by the division between the two "sheep folds". I don't think it works objectively speaking but subjectively it seems to work for those within the organisation. Why not ask a JW next time they visit your home?

I always ask how they know if they are in the 144,000 or not. And how does one get to achieve such.
 
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