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Justification from Eternity

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It said when Abram believed, he was credited/accounted with righteousness. We aren’t born already justified, Brother. We are born condemned in Adam. In time, we are justified by faith. That’s the classical Reformed belief on this subject.
 
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Not denying these wonderful verses, but your application of them. Was the Christ literally slain before the creation of the world, or was He slain in time?
 
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Not denying these wonderful verses, but your application of them. Was the Christ literally slain before the creation of the world, or was He slain in time?
In the mind of God, Christ is the covenant surety, so the answer is yes. There is no succession of time in the mind of God.

Yours in the Lord,

jm
 
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