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The Lady Kate said:
One takes skill, forethought, and patience... the other is a parlor trick for someone omnipotent. Personally, I'm more impressed with the former... no flashy tricks, no need to impress...
Excellent point that I mention rather often. I'm in awe over the age and majesty of the universe and Earth. I go to a museum and touch bones or rocks that are millions or billions of years old, and my jaw drops and how impressive that is. Looking into the universe you see the incredible size and beauty of the stars and galaxies, some that are hundreds of thousands of light years across. An Old universe is one where God takes his time and patience, and watches the wonder of that creation unfold.

Whipping something together in 6 days, and making it look billions of years older isn't very majestic to me. In fact, it's rather deceptive. I have fruit older than 6 days.
 
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Evolution occurs in biological organism, Angels are not biological organisms. It's helpful to have a clue what you're talking about before shooting your mouth off.

No. No one has a clue about Heaven. At least not the way youput it. God created us in His image. Do you know what an angle looks like. No@!!!!! Has anyone everseen one. Not many!!! Therefore, don't yell at me when you know no more bout the body of an angle than I do!!!!
 
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Everloving said:
God created not only the Earth during creation, but also Heaven. Did angles evolve too?? Or do they break the rules of your evolution. Or is that yet another missing link in the half done puzzle of evolutioen.
The creation and fall of the angels isn't even mentioned in Genesis.
 
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Everloving said:
Anybody wanna answer this??? Let's hear evolutions side of the creation of Heaven.
First you have to show us where it sad God created the Heaven we commonly refer to, and angels in Genesis. In case you haven't noticed, angels' creation or their fall from Heaven aren't mentioned in the OT.
 
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Everloving said:
You must not have read my full post.
Sure I did. You said:
The process you describe for creating new skin colours (read: the mixing of genes) after Babel is the same process that occurs today in "interfamily marriage." (And is a type of evolution whether you want to admit it or not -- most creationists seem happy to.) You seem to be admitting here that any new skin colours that come about through the mixing of two families is a "degeneration". If you believe otherwise, then please clarify yourself, lest you be accused of practicing eugenics!
 
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An angle is a geometric concept. An Angel is a messenger for God.

And what do you think being made in God's image means? Is God an old guy sitting on clouds with a white beard?
 
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Jase said:
Exactly. So a literal Genesis has no bearing on the Gospel.
I just think it is absurd to reject the gospel on grounds that one must first know how old the earth is. I can't think of a more compelling or convincing argument then the love of God as there is not much purpose in evolving from pond scum.
 
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No one has a clue about heaven? Angels (not 'angles') have bodies? What the heck is happening in American churches today? Is there no teaching happening? Granted you're only 15 so I guess its not all your fault. I've already told you that evolution occurs in biological organism, angels are not biological organism, so they do not evolve. What my not having seen an angel has to do with it is anyone's guess.
 
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original OP: was just wondering if the bible mentions anything about it and could it have anything to do with the tower of babel??

my reply:


Nothing there about wishing for "a Biblical reply". I gave a precise answer.

So stop getting at me about not "replying Biblically". I wasn't asked to.
 
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No. No one has a clue about Heaven.

No one has a clue about Heaven? Oops, sorry about that St. Paul and the rest of ye Saints.

God created us in His image.

Now, what exactly does that mean? Is God physical? If so, are males or females closer to his image? I would venture to say that this is in spiritual terms.

Do you know what an angle looks like.

Yes.

An angel, on the other hand, is a spiritual being, not biological, and therefore not subject to evolution.

The rest of the people on here may be ready to let you off based on your age, but I will not. There is no excuse for not learning fully about a subject before going off and pontificating about it.
 
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The first intelligent answer I have heard!!!
 
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Why are so many languages similar? Because we all origianlly spoke the same language. God scattered people thorughout hte earth and confused their languages. God is loving- but if their is no hell- what then is the punishment for not accepting the saviour? Why bother if there is no hell. Lucifer was banished from heaven- he is in hell. Those who do not accept Jesus go there as well. However- Jesus took the penalty for our sins.
 
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Color is a gene, just like anything else. The allels (sp) within the genes deside color.

there is a thread on arctic foxes here.
i spent a significant amount of time last week learning about mammalian coat color genes.

1. there may be as many as 100 genes at work in the topic.
2. alleles and their products interact with the genome and each other determine phenotype
3. it is a far from straightforward process, as of yet i don't know why arctic foxes turn white in the winter after a number of hours reading and searching.

eye color in people is 3 genes (at this point in time) perhaps that will be a better example. mammalian coat color is really complex, as we found out. it is certainly not this simple gene = color relationship you think it is.
 
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You know what drives me nuts? The fact that a Christain would totally try to make someone look foolish because they have made a keyboarding error. Have you never made one? It seems to me that people are getting desperate for posts and grasping at straws because a good point has been made and it is becoming difficult to counter it
 
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