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Jupiter is a planet that catches our attention just by its sheer size as well as by the constant turbulence of its atmosphere. It seems to mimic a solar system all of its own with its many moons serving as its planets. Some have even imagined it to be a failed star. But of course its mass prohibits that from being so. Failed stars are actually brown giants which approach the required mass for nuclear fusion typical of stars much more closely than Jupiter does.
Brown Dwarfs: Failed Stars Resembling Planets

In any case, here are some details about our biggest planet.

The Romans named it after their god Jupiter.



It is the third-brightest object in the night sky after the Moon and Venus as seen from Earth.



It is the fifth planet from the Sun coming after Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars.






 
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I actually have a telescope at home and was able to see Jupiter when it was closer to Earth in its orbit, really cool.
You must have clear skies at your location. I grew up on the USA East Coast and only a few stars were visible so I assumed that was the way that the sky looked everywhere until I visited an island in the Caribbean and the whole sky seemed to explode with brilliant dots of light. That kind of a sky inspires star gazing. But the sky here discourages it. I had been taken to a planetarium when I was approx. five years old and imagined that such a sky was imagine actually. That visit gave me a lifelong interest in astronomy. I have considered viewing the Sun since that is definitely viewable despite the smog.
 
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I'm an East Coaster as well but live in a rural area, so skies can be pretty clear. I know what you mean though, I went to Hawaii in January 2016 and you could see so many stars in the sky that it wowed me.
 
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I'm an East Coaster as well but live in a rural area, so skies can be pretty clear. I know what you mean though, I went to Hawaii in January 2016 and you could see so many stars in the sky that it wowed me.
How much detail of Jupiter were you able to observe with your telescope?
How much magnification did it have?
 
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How much detail of Jupiter were you able to observe with your telescope?
How much magnification did it have?

I forget the magnification, it was several years ago, but I was able to see the Great Red Spot and I think one of the moons.
 
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I forget the magnification, it was several years ago, but I was able to see the Great Red Spot and I think one of the moons.
I often wonder why God would create such a place. One religious magazine began to mention how Jupiter deflects many incoming objects for reaching the inner solar system where our Earth is located. But that doesn't make sense since why hurl objects at the Earth in the first place? That is unless the Devil is hurling them and God is deflecting them via Jupiter. But that would be rather silly-correct?
 
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Yeah, that would be silly—assuming that would imply that Satan has enough power to hurl meteors near Earth (or in close proximity) if he wanted, which would put him on a level similar to the gods of Greek/Roman mythology.
 
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Planets are formed through gravity, not through supernatural shenannigans.
 
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Yeah, that would be silly—assuming that would imply that Satan has enough power to hurl meteors near Earth (or in close proximity) if he wanted, which would put him on a level similar to the gods of Greek/Roman mythology.

Well, he is called a god and does has enough power to influence the governments and deceive.

2 Corinthians 4:4 NIV
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

He was granted enough power to cause whirlwinds wreaking havoc on Job's family. He had enough power to materialize and have relation with women. To possess the bodies o certain people. To mimic all the plagues brought on Egypt.

Since mankind rejected God what the limits placed on of those powers are in reference to our Earth and humans and universe is open to debate. So what are a few meteors just for sport? You know, just to keep the nerves on edge.

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Christians tend to view such false deities as Jupiter as being alternate representations of Satan and his demons.

1 Corinthians 10:2 NIV

No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.
 
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I never claimed that gravity isn't involved.

Your question was "why would god create such a place", clearly implying that jupiter is the result of a decision to create followed by an act of creation.

That is simply not how planets originate.
There is no creation. There is a formation.
 
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Here is a diameter comparison between Jupiter and the Sun and Jupiter and Jupiter and the earth.


you could fit almost 1300 Earth’s inside Jupiter.


Rough visual comparison of Jupiter, Earth, and the Great Red Spot. Approximate scale is 44 km/px. Credit: NASA/Brian0918/ Wikipedia Commons
 
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Your question was "why would god create such a place", clearly implying that jupiter is the result of a decision to create followed by an act of creation.

That is simply not how planets originate.
There is no creation. There is a formation.
Formation and creation aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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Calling Satan a "god" though seems to indicate by default that there's more than one god, just at different power levels and Yahweh being the Supreme God, going from monotheism to polytheism, in a sense.

And I think some tend to view the gods of other cultures as being "alternate representations of Satan and his demons" because they automatically think "Oh, something that seems like a supernatural god from another culture is not our god, it must be Satan/demons!", who's to say any of those "gods" in other cultures had any power in the first place, wouldn't they just be man-made?

Although, there were points in the Bible where other tribes sacrificed to other gods, at one point (2 Kings 3) when one tribe sacrificed to another god "an outburst of divine anger was kindled against Israel" and thus Israel lost even though God was with them. That would seem to imply that there are other "gods" in a sense—why would God even have any demons be able to exercise any sort of power anyway? Do such things mean that the Jews were actually henotheistic (saying several gods exist but worshipping only one) rather than monotheistic?
 
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Here are various definitions of the term ""god".



Philippians 3:19 NIV
Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things.



One definition would make anything or anyone who is worshiped a god.
Another is that it refers to a supernatural being.



So based on those two criterion Satan is a god.



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His demons might inspire representations of themselves in harmony with some preferred quality and in that way receive offerings and worship in an indirect way.



1 Timothy 4:1 NIV
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

The angel Gabriel wsas opposed by a demon in charge of Persia.

Daniel:10:13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia
 
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In that case though, wouldn't it be more accurate to say we're henotheistic rather than monotheistic?
 
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How much detail of Jupiter were you able to observe with your telescope?
How much magnification did it have?

I'm not sure if you're totally familiar with telescopes and how they work, but the first thing to look for is the diameter of the objective, whether it's a lens on the front end, or the mirror on the back end, depending on the type of scope it is. I had an 8" reflector and usually used 30x to 90x magnification. More than that made images blurry and distorted. The detail I saw on Jupiter was mostly several of the cloud bands. Of course, the 4 largest moons could clearly be seen, but those can be seen with even a smaller scope. Also, planets are easily observed under the sky conditions you have in urbans areas. Galaxies, nebulae, star clusters and other such faint objects need a much darker location. Once you're in a dark sky setting and have a good scope, you're in for a real treat!
 
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