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So, how reliable are the stories of Josephus? In his autobiography I read,

34. (169) And by this stratagem it was that I gradually got all the senate of Tiberias into my power, and sent them to the city forementioned, with many of the principal men among the populace; and those not fewer in number than the other: (170) but, when the multitude saw into what great miseries they had brought themselves, they desired me to punish the author of this sedition: his name was Clitus, a young man, bold and rash in his undertakings. (171) Now, since I thought it not agreeable to piety to put one of my own people to death, and yet found it necessary to punish him, I ordered Levi, one of my own guards, to go to him, and cut off one of Clitus’s hands; (172) but as he that was ordered to do this, was afraid to go out of the ship alone among so great a multitude, I was not willing that the timorousness of the soldier should appear to the people of Tiberias;—so I called to Clitus himself, and said to him, “Since thou deservest to lose both thine hands for thy ingratitude to me, be thou thine own executioner, lest, if thou refusest so to be, thou undergo a worse punishment.” (173) And when he earnestly begged of me to spare him one of his hands, it was with difficulty that I granted it. So in order to prevent the loss of both his hands, he willingly took his sword, and cut off his own left hand; and this put an end to the sedition.

Josephus, F., & W. Whiston. The Works of Josephus : Complete and Unabridged. Peabody: Hendrickson, 1996, c1987.

Yikes! Was this really "normal" life back then? Just to demand someone cut off their hand... and they did it? That's insane! Any thoughts?
 

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You might start with this web-link, but I don't remember how much info it has about criminal justice:

http://www.roman-empire.net/

Also, some historians fairly contemporary with Josephus come to mind: Pliny the Elder and Tacitus. I'm sure you can find both on the web.
 
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Asavedo said:
So, how reliable are the stories of Josephus? In his autobiography I read,



Yikes! Was this really "normal" life back then? Just to demand someone cut off their hand... and they did it? That's insane! Any thoughts?

I think they are generally pretty accurate. If memory serves as one example, what Josephus describes for the Herodium has been basically verified by archaeology, even when it comes to minute details. That's just one example...

And historians have come up with something close to the most likely original wording in Antiquities 18:63 (the "Jesus passage" of Josephus; early Christians messed with the text).
 
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Thanx to both of ya'll... I'm just about finished reading Josephus' autobiography now... then I'm diggin' into his two main books... then those two little ones... and then off to this other stuff... fascinating... you know... when I was a kid, I hated history 'cause I didn't see any point in it all... but now... wanting to know about how the world was in the different contexts of Church history... wow... fascinating!
 
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