John Wesley on salvation

[OzSpen]

Does John Wesley state that salvation is dependent on God + human ability?

It may be true but I haven't seen direct quotes from his works that reach that conclusion. Can any of you provide evidence in support of that view of salvation by Wesley or against that perspective by Wesley?

Oz

 

[Uber Genius]

Oz

Typed "Wesley's view of salvation," into google and it returned this link: The Wesley Center Online: Sermon 43 - The Scripture Way Of Salvation

Not sure why you are outsourcing your internet searches to forum members but hope this helps.

 

[Striver]

Oz, I'd also suggest Wesley's sermon on Original Sin.

This article on Seedbed is a short summary of how I've understood Wesley to theologically tick without too much oversimplification. There's also a podcast called Remonstrance which works (sorry...) to clear up some of the misconceptions about Wesley and Arminius.

 

[circuitrider]

United Methodists believe that we are saved by God's grace. We have to cooperate with God's grace because God grants us free will.

 

[raschau]

In the historical Wesleyan view, God's grace (called 'prevenient') enables the fallen human will to, as circuitrider said above, cooperate with saving grace and enter into a covenant relationship with Him. This is not the same thing as Pelagianism or Semi-Pelagianism where humans can simply 'choose' to become saved of their own power, or Calvinism, where the human will is considered totally depraved and only God's sovereignty can irresistibly draw His chosen elect toward salvation.

 

[Dave-W]

In the historical Wesleyan view, God's grace (called 'prevenient') enables the fallen human will to, as circuitrider said above, cooperate with saving grave and enter into a covenant relationship with Him. This is not the same thing as Pelagianism or Semi-Pelagianism where humans can simply 'choose' to become saved of their own power or Calvinism, where the human will is considered totally depraved and only God's sovereignty can irresistibly draw His chosen elect toward salvation.

Indeed. Which is why I see Wesley's view as being the most biblical. We do choose, but it is not "just" choosing; it has to be coupled with the drawing from the Father, where we cooperate with HIS move.

"Choose you this day whom you shall serve...."
"No one can come to Me unless the Father draws him ..."

Neither Calvinism or Pelagianism adequately cover both of these verses.